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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src CHANGES
Date Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:01:50 GMT
In many people's minds, I think, I might be the loudest "autoconf
sucks" proponent ;)  I have nothing against autoconf per se. In fact,
when done correctly, it's a great advantage. When done "incorrectly"
it's a major pain and the end result is needing to hand-edit a
config.h file anyway, so what's the big advantage...

I do not know how to build an autoconf from scratch. I do, however, know
how to adjust them to work with strange systems. If 2.0 uses autoconf
then I plan on doing that.

Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > 
> > I am a big fan of autoconf'ing Apache.
> So am I.
> >                                         However, this has very little to
> > do with APACI.  APACI is not autoconf.  APACI is a lookalike script which
> > mimics the configure script which autoconf generates.
> I disagree.  APACI wouldn't exist if there weren't an
> "Autoconf Now!" party. :-)
> > This is not an argument either way.  Just clarifying that APACI does not
> > mean autoconf and as far as I am concerned none of this APACI stuff should
> > survive in the 2.0 tree.  It should be a real autoconf system.
> Agreed.  I just find it odd that the people who have worked so
> hard on providing this functionality (mostly but not entirely Ralf)
> haven't devoted at least a little effort to getting the real thing
> to work in the 2.0 tree -- or at least a skeleton.  They clearly
> have a deep understanding of how autoconf works, which is much
> more than I have -- so I hope they'll use some of that expertise
> to make the 2.0 autoconf environment as excellent as possible.
> I'd rather see the effort go there than into APACI.  MHO, though.

   Jim Jagielski   |||   |||
            "That's no ordinary rabbit... that's the most foul,
            cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever laid eyes on"

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