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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: [STATISTIC] Apache Development
Date Mon, 03 Aug 1998 19:26:52 GMT
As someone said, this sort of "statistic" does little except to cause
division in the ranks. It does nothing really, IMO, to make us a stronger
"team"... in fact, it pretty much removes the whole idea of a "team".

CHANGES is incomplete at best (I rarely add entries to it as do others)
and it's easy to "skew" results. Same as with CVS logs... it would be
easy to generate skewed results by doing various universal renamings
which ain't in the same "catagory" as code from scratch.

I recall Ben L. once noted that if members were "noted" by simply the
amount of code they produced, Apache would be the worse for it. I think
I agree.

Alexei Kosut wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Ralf S. Engelschall wrote:
> > PS: Should we post it on a regular basis, say once per month?
> Definitely not. This is especially due to the meaninglessness of this
> particular statistic. Not that there aren't others that more more
> meaningless. Ben's revelation that I've only checked out the Apache
> sources five times in the last month was particuarly useless :)
> And the CHANGES file, as we all know, is a particuarly bad indication of
> when anything happened. It's missing large chunks of data, especially
> between major releases (1.1, 1.2 and 1.3, for example). According to the
> CHANGES file, for example, we never actually made a Win32 port. It just
> sort of appeared. And it would have only counted once, at any rate,
> although the number of lines of code attached to such an entry would
> probably have given Ambarish, Ben and I top billing in the 1.3a1 category
> if it were done by lines of code changed.
> (And I *know* I've made more than 27 contributions, by the way. But most
> of them came in sections of the CHANGES file that aren't there any more,
> or never were. Minor things like mod_actions, handlers, keep-alive
> support, <Location>, name-based virtual hosts, HTTP/1.1 compliance,
> <Files>, chunks of the Win32 port, etc...)
> -- Alexei Kosut <> <>
>    Stanford University, Class of 2001 * Apache <> *

   Jim Jagielski   |||   |||
            "That's no ordinary rabbit... that's the most foul,
            cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever laid eyes on"

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