Return-Path: Delivered-To: new-httpd-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23170 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Feb 1998 02:20:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23163 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1998 02:20:27 -0000 Received: from devsys.jagunet.com (206.156.208.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 1998 02:20:27 -0000 Received: (from jim@localhost) by devsys.jaguNET.com (8.8.8/jag-2.4) id VAA07809 for new-httpd@apache.org; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:20:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Jagielski Message-Id: <199802030220.VAA07809@devsys.jaguNET.com> Subject: Re: apache/linux modules To: new-httpd@apache.org Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:20:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Cristian Gafton" at Feb 2, 98 08:57:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: new-httpd-owner@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org Cristian Gafton wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > Oh. I see. I need to edit a file to make configure/autconf know that. > > Yep. That saves a lot of work. No more hand editing files with > > autoconf, unless you need to hand edit a file to make it work > > with your setup. Yep. That's a time saver :) :) :) > > This turns into a religiuos war. You defend your point at any price, no > matter what, aren't you ? > I said right up front that it was religious :) :) As mentioned in another post, by prejudice against autoconf was created by the hassles I had to deal with over years on a platform and setup that wasn't plain vanilla. Almost without fail, ./configure would only be the first step in the build process... I would have to let it run, then figure out what files it created, and then hand-edit those files as required. I would then need to make sure that config.h didn't make assumptions that weren't valid (ie: like the call structure of setpgrp(), which varies between SYSV and BSD [autoconf might be fixed with regards to this now]) and other such things. In a nutshell, ./configure always seemed to say "Don't worry, I know best" and make porting/building programs a major hassle because no matter what, it very often (1) didn't know best and (2) pretended to be a lot smarter than it really was. Old habits, and old prejudices are hard to change. IMO a small, home-brewed "Configure" that does exactly what we want and nothing more or nothing less is in the spirit of Apache. Sometimes, all you want is the 3/4" hex socket and the 1/2" star socket and not the whole freakin' set, with screw drivers included :) :) -- ==================================================================== Jim Jagielski | jaguNET Access Services jim@jaguNET.com | http://www.jaguNET.com/ "Look at me! I'm wearing a cardboard belt!"