Return-Path: Delivered-To: new-httpd-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2021 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Jan 1998 10:59:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2008 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 10:59:28 -0000 Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (139.191.1.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 10:59:28 -0000 Received: from elec.isei.jrc.it by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5688) with SMTP id LAA17809; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:59:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from elect6.jrc.it by elec.isei.jrc.it (4.1/EI-3.0m) id AA23966; Thu, 15 Jan 98 11:58:42 +0100 Posted-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:57:43 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:57:43 +0100 (MET) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@elect6.jrc.it To: Jim Jagielski Cc: new-httpd@apache.org Subject: Re: mod_auth-any/1672: Authentication / .htaccess DoS attack (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199801151054.FAA11711@devsys.jaguNET.com> Message-Id: Reply-Path: Dirk.vanGulik@jrc.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: new-httpd-owner@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Marc Slemko wrote: > > > > > > We'll never be able to protect against DoS attacks, esp if a > > > > nasty user wants to fool around... After all, they could upload > > > > a HUGE graphic, then log in with a 9600baud modem, load the image, > > > > and as that comes through, create a new browser-window, load it > > > > again, etc.. until MaxClients. > > > > But there is already a lot of time-out type of protection in the various > > not so blocking read/writes. That is different from the /dev/zero type of > > go-away problems; which might mean an overall resource/time/cycles limit. > > > > cron, lynx, shell. > > Think about it :) > I've lost you here.. I was trying to express that by carefully setting the various limits for the classes which run apache and the spawned off children; one can safeguard to a fair extend to the type of DoS which are effectively just causing resource eating; such as the open on /dev/zero. Or is this fundamentally wrong ? Dw.