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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: apache group process
Date Sat, 10 Jan 1998 16:35:36 GMT
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> >> For once, I don't want to hear anything from "The Devil's Advocate".
> >> If folks can't be their own advocate, I don't want to hear from them.
> >> The Devil doesn't get a vote unless he starts doing the work.
> >
> >I feel this is directed at me... If not, then ignore this. If so, then
> >handle it as you see fit.
> Kind of, but not the way you interpreted it.  Not even remotely,
> since that would equate you with the Devil. ;)
> What I was trying to say is that I *do* want to hear the opinions
> of people like Jim (the real Jim).  What I don't want to hear is what
> Jim thinks might be the worst-case scenario opinion of someone other
> than Jim, which is exactly what I get every time Jim (or anyone else
> for that matter) plays "Devil's Advocate".  It makes it impossible
> for me to determine what is actually Jim's opinion.

Oh... I only wear my DA hat when there's an issue to be raised that
I don't personally feel, but I am aware of and want to make sure
others are as well. By donning my DA hat, I can raise the issue
without people saying "Jim's a prick" :) :)
      Jim Jagielski            |       jaguNET Access Services           |
            "Look at me! I'm wearing a cardboard belt!"

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