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From Marc Slemko <>
Subject release date for 1.3b3
Date Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:18:34 GMT
Shipping betas when they aren't ready helps nothing.  Setting release
dates are fine, but releasing code that simply isn't ready is a poor idea.
Like it or not, there is a large overhead for each beta released and
rushing it to keep to some made up schedule isn't productive.

I am all for trying to keep this moving, but pushing betas out will simply
lead to more and more and more.

On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

> >From the fingers of Marc Slemko flowed the following:
> >
> >I suggest 1.3b3 is held off a couple of days.  This would be nice to get
> >resolved, and I get the impression that a few other things are still in
> >the last minute stages...
>     No, please. -0.75.  I do not want to see the 1.3 betas slipping.
>     The 14/11 date was proposed on the 6th, three people have +1ed it,
>     and no-one has demurred until now, on the very eve.  Can we please
>     just roll & ship 1.3b3 and immediately check this into 1.3b4-dev?
>     I'm really concerned about slipping betas for "just one more fix."
>     Many of us wanted to see this sucker on the streets as 1.3.0 by now,
>     and it's disconcerting that we only have one beta out so far - and
>     that almost a month ago.  We've put a *lot* of stuff into 1.3b3-dev;
>     I request that we send it out now.  Let's get this stuff out where
>     it can be tested by a wider audience while we continue with as-yet
>     unfixed bugs.
>     I think we may not be more than two or three betas away from
>     1.3.0; this cycle has felt really good.
>     #ken    P-)}

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