Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hyperreal.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06982; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [204.62.130.91]) by hyperreal.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06978 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20965 invoked by uid 500); 26 Aug 1997 20:28:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:28:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dean Gaudet To: new-httpd@apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] buffered logs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: new-httpd-owner@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org read htdocs/manual/stopping.html. That's what I tell all the users who report crap like "I kill the parent and the children stay around". kill -9 is a nobrainer sysadmin behaviour. They learn it at some point and figure saving the 10 seconds it'd take to do a normal kill, wait, see if it died, then kill -9, is worth it. Or some such crap. They get what they deserve. Dean On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Alexei Kosut wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Dean Gaudet wrote: > > > Oh this doesn't implement that fragment proposal. These logs are normal > > logs, just the hits don't appear in as close chronological order ... and > > if you kill -9 your servers for god knows what reason, you lose log > > entries. > > I've discovered lately that a lot of people kill -9 their servers as a > matter of course, which wreaks havoc on anything that the server wants to > do at shutdown, of course. > > I don't know why. Maybe there's some advice or scripts or something > floating around that tells people to stop Apache by kill -9ing > it. And I don't believe our docs ever say anything about how to stop > Apache, just start it. > > *shrug* > > -- Alexei Kosut > >