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From Dean Gaudet <>
Subject Re: [PATCH] buffered logs
Date Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:28:38 GMT
read htdocs/manual/stopping.html.  That's what I tell all the users who
report crap like "I kill the parent and the children stay around".

kill -9 is a nobrainer sysadmin behaviour.  They learn it at some point
and figure saving the 10 seconds it'd take to do a normal kill, wait, see
if it died, then kill -9, is worth it.  Or some such crap.   They get what
they deserve.


On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Alexei Kosut wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Dean Gaudet wrote:
> > Oh this doesn't implement that fragment proposal.  These logs are normal
> > logs, just the hits don't appear in as close chronological order ... and
> > if you kill -9 your servers for god knows what reason, you lose log
> > entries. 
> I've discovered lately that a lot of people kill -9 their servers as a
> matter of course, which wreaks havoc on anything that the server wants to
> do at shutdown, of course.
> I don't know why. Maybe there's some advice or scripts or something
> floating around that tells people to stop Apache by kill -9ing
> it. And I don't believe our docs ever say anything about how to stop
> Apache, just start it.
> *shrug*
> -- Alexei Kosut <>

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