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From Brian Behlendorf <>
Subject Keep it simple
Date Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:52:38 GMT

Regarding enhancing custom logging to do a bunch of conditional things,
named formats, replacements for mod_log_agent/referrer, etc:

I very strongly feel that this is a slippery slope for us to be walking
upon; that everything proposed here can be done completely *outside* the
web server software, with a perl script or even a separate binary program
we release.  Its inclusion in Apache will add code, directives, promises of
future support, and complexity, with not much gain over using a separate
process.  Dean's desire to see reliable piping to logging scripts is in
line with this, so that's cool, but I am very tempted to give a -1 to the
various other proposals.  

Now that we have a fairly robust graceful restart system, rotating web logs
and running a perl script on them every day, hour, even 10 minutes is no
big deal.  What more do we have to gain by putting that logic directly in
Apache?  Let's write a really nice perl script and distribute that with

Note that I am also in favor of efforts to formalize the error logging.


"Why not?" - TL  - -

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