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From Marc Slemko <>
Subject Re: anonymous CVS access (fwd)
Date Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:10:40 GMT

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:54:59 -0500
From: Sam Rasins <>
To: Marc Slemko <>
Subject: Re: anonymous CVS access


I will leave it up to you as to weather you forward this to the new-httpd
list ... I know it is a bit like sales, but I felt you (the Apache Group)
should know that some of us "smaller" companies are willing to donate what
ever we can.  I've been following the new-httpd list for about a month and
I think this is *finally* a way I can contribute!

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:32:33 -0600 (MDT) you listed a few specs you'd like
to see for an server ... I have listed MY retail price for them
below ... HOWEVER ... I am wiling to *donate* (at least) those marked by *
to the left of the item.  Also note that (yes this is a *PLUG* :) I will
give anyone contributing to the Apache Group a significant price-break ...
I'll basically cover my costs plus a *very* small profit to make the
accountants happy.

> Looking at rough costs (all in CDN$):

                             CDN$       Retail $ $
   ----------------------    --------   --------   ------------
*  Motherboard with P/166    $400        $275.00        $235.00
*  2x 32 MB SIMMs            $400        $295.00        $230.00 (for 64MB)
*  case w/ps (mid tower)     $100         $75.00         $60.00
*  ethernet (10baseT ?)      $50-100      $30.00         $25.00
   scsi card (Adaptec 2940)  $200        $225.00        $195.00
   2 x 2G SCSI disk          $1000       $580.00        $500.00 (for 2)
?  tape backup drive         $500        $150.00        $135.00 (varies with type)
*  floppy                    $40          $32.00         $27.00
*  keyboard                  $30          $27.00         $23.00

?  Monitor (14")                         $225.00        $200.00
*  Trident Video card (2MB)               $60.00         $50.00
   CDROM ???  (16x IDE)                  $100.00         $90.00

* - Denotes that Caribe Enterprises, Inc. will donate.
? - Denotes a question about type/size, etc.

I am actually offering a Cyrix P166+ ... but it's all in the noise!

As far as the SCSI drives go ... I am not sure I can bite off that much at
this time.  The monitor is up in the air ... if the person administering the
system doesn't mind monochrome, then it gets REAL cheap.

> So that seems to me to add up to something between $2500-$3000 CDN.
> Which would be... $1800-$2200US.  You could wop some money off
> disk, and perhaps live without a tape drive if something else can
> back it up.

The backup drive costs will vary a bunch ... the above was for a Taravan 800,
not real speedy, but good.  You may be able to utilize another server as your
backup medium ... using something like 'rdist' to "mirror" the filesystem and
let the "other" system do the backup for you. (Maybe Brian at hyperreal will
do this for the group???)

> Could we reasonably put together such a system?


> Is it a good idea?  I like the idea.

I think it is a great idea ... then the Apache Group can decide what OS and
such to use ... without having to gain the cooperation of the "host" system,
not that that has been a problem in the past ... just simpler.

Let me know what you (the Apache Group) thinks ... 

Sambo	!-)

We have met the enemy, and he is us.
		-- Walt Kelly

{NOTE: The quote above was provided via the 'fortune' program.}

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