Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) id IAA23263; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate-isdn.ukweb.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) with SMTP id IAA23252; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from star.ukweb.com [192.168.2.10] by gate-isdn.ukweb.com with smtp (Exim 0.57 #1) id 0vPWzJ-0000zx-00; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:56:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:59:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Sutton Reply-To: Paul Sutton To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com Subject: Voting meta-discussion (was Re: cvs commit: apache/src mod_rewrite.h Makefile.tmpl (fwd)) In-Reply-To: <57917zlly8.fsf@tees.elsevier.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: new-httpd-owner@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com On 18 Nov 1996, Paul Richards wrote: > I've always been against voting. This is the only project I've ever > been involved in that has these procedures and Apache is a lot simpler > than most of them. Using cvs the way we have been has accelerated > progress considerably. I don't see that we've got a less stable product I would prefer not to comment on this, but in case silence is taken as agreement I'd just like to make it clear that I disagree with what you say here. I think: 1. Voting is a valuable part of the development process. It ensures that new features are developed with at least some degree of consistancy, and prevents it being side-tracked by an individual's personal preferences. Whether the three-vote approval/one-vote veto are correct numbers of votes to use is another issue 2. Voting has no relationship with CVS access rights. I don't think it is helpful to critisise developers who do not use CVS, or try to disenfranchise from from the development process 3. It is wrong to develop code on the principle of first putting it into the current code then taking it out if it fails. New code and features should be discussed first and tested before being applied after an approval vote 4. A feature freeze does not imply a free-for-all to commit their favourite patches just prior to the freeze Paul UK Web Ltd