Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) id JAA28951; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) with ESMTP id JAA28933; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id RAA22186 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:47:59 GMT Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:48:00 +0000 Received: from tees.elsevier.co.uk (tees.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.60]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id RAA03472; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:47:56 GMT Received: (from dpr@localhost) by tees.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.2/8.8.0) id RAA00685; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:46 GMT To: Paul Sutton Cc: new-httpd@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Voting meta-discussion (was Re: cvs commit: apache/src mod_rewrite.h Makefile.tmpl (fwd)) References: From: Paul Richards Date: 18 Nov 1996 17:46:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: Paul Sutton's message of Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:59:17 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <57ohgvthx6.fsf@tees.elsevier.co.uk> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.30 Sender: new-httpd-owner@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com Paul Sutton writes: > 3. It is wrong to develop code on the principle of first > putting it into the current code then taking it out if it fails. > New code and features should be discussed first and tested before > being applied after an approval vote I disagree with this. You're advocating that cvs be used to combine code after it has been tested, this is going back to the patch-n-vote days where we'd have to apply patches on our own boxes to test them out before they go into cvs. This is very difficult to do, it was then and it would be more so now, with more frequent contributions. None of the strong advocates of voting have yet shown why the current development practices are failing? Is Apache any less stable? My view is that a hell of a lot more progress has been made since we started using cvs than when we had to patch-n-vote. > 4. A feature freeze does not imply a free-for-all to commit their > favourite patches just prior to the freeze This was hardly a free for all. The desire for a satisfy patch has been there all along and all I did was take item no 1 off Rob's todo list and actually do it. -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. (Netcraft Ltd. contractor) Elsevier Science TIS online journal project. Email: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155