Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) id JAA22217; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) with SMTP id JAA22212; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:59:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from battra.telebase.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.7.6/V2.0) with ESMTP id BAA09815; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:48:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by battra.telebase.com id EAA20813 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:48:37 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from spudboy.telebase.com (spudboy.telebase.com [172.16.2.215]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.8.1/8.8.1) with ESMTP id EAA07984 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:48:37 -0500 (EST) X-Received: (from chuck@localhost) by spudboy.telebase.com (8.7.5/8.6.9.1) id EAA11143 for new-httpd@hyperreal.com; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:48:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Murcko Message-Id: <199610310948.EAA11143@telebase.com.> Subject: Re: mod_pics_simple To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:48:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199610310118.RAA22544@clotho.c2.org> from "sameer" at Oct 30, 96 05:18:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:59:25 -0800 (PST) ReSent-From: Brian Behlendorf ReSent-To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-new-httpd@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com sameer liltingly intones: > > Now that mod_pics_simple is already in the tree I feel like I > am too late to talk about this, but we haven't shipped a beta yet, so > maybe there is hope. > > I don't think we should put mod_pics_simple in the standard > distribution. I think that PICS is a very highly charged > politically-loaded censorship standard. Now I'm not saying that the > group should ditch mod_pics_simple as a statement that PICS is wrong, > but it seems to me that inclusion of PICS is an implicit support for > PICS. > Now if the group consensus is we *should* support PICS, then I > am not going to continue to say that mod_pics_simple should be > removed. But if the group doesn't feel like advocating the standard, > it shouldn't be included. > (I have no problem with it being on the module registry and > available on the www.apache.org site. That sort of availability > doesn't appear that it is endorsement) > > So if the group doesn't want to endorse PICS, I think we > should remove it. > Having read the October article in Communications of the ACM on PICS, I'm in agreement with Sameer on this one. I was originally in favor of the mod_pics_simple inclusion. chuck Chuck Murcko N2K Inc. Wayne PA chuck@telebase.com And now, on a lighter note: It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.