Subject: Re: keepalive and windoze
To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:24:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Ben Laurie <ben@gonzo.ben.algroup.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.93.960701134930.10171D-100000@acidik.organic.com>
 from "Alexei Kosut" at Jul 1, 96 01:54:58 pm
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Alexei Kosut wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Chuck Murcko wrote:
> 
> > > On a server running b3-dev I'm being hassled to disable keepalive to
> > > keep the windoze users from seeing dumb things... this is of course a
> > > poor solution.
> > > 
> > There's a problem. It involves keepalive. The clients under Windoze don't
> > seem to catch the connection close of one or more items transferred.
> > Other servers don't do this.
> 
> Other servers *don't* do this? I asked about this a bit ago, and no one
> responded, so I had assumed it was something all servers did. I assume you
> specifically checked these servers and the pages you were accessing to
> make sure they were enabling keepalive? And that the bug is
> well-reproducable enough with Apache that you can be sure it doesn't show
> up on other servers? (Ben tells us letting the Keepalive time out, then
> reloading the page will reproduce this)
> 

Other servers _do_ do this. When it came up last time I spent considerable time
with a network analyzer verifying that Apache (at least on my box) was doing
_exactly_ what the TCP/IP spec says it should.

Furthermore, last time round, Netscape fixed it. This time round they say it
is fixed in 3.0b5. What more can I say?

> > It'd be embarrasing to release with this one still in there.
> 
> Agreed. If it really does not show up with other servers that do
> keep-alive, I will -1 any Apache release that has KeepAlive enabled by
> default until we fix it (since that means it's fixable, even though it's 
> a Windows bug). With Windows being the most popular OS in the
> browser market, I don't think its appropriate for the most popular server
> (35% according to the July Netcraft - 15 point lead over NCSA) to not work
> right with it.

Agreed.

Cheers,

Ben.

> 
> Doesn't that make sense?
> 
> -- Alexei Kosut <akosut@organic.com>            The Apache HTTP Server 
>    http://www.nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us/~akosut/      http://www.apache.org/
> 
> 
> 

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