Return-Path: owner-new-httpd Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA00327; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:51:49 -0700 Received: from newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA00320; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:51:45 -0700 Received: from void.ncsa.uiuc.edu by newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10045 (5.65a/IDA-1.4.2 for new-httpd@hyperreal.com); Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:51:41 -0500 Received: by void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (4.1/NCSA-4.1) id AA26203; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:51:12 CDT From: guillory@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Stan Guillory) Message-Id: <9509082251.AA26203@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: netscape marketing To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:51:11 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199509082204.PAA13821@neon.netscape.com> from "Rob McCool" at Sep 8, 95 03:04:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1709 Sender: owner-new-httpd@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org > > For a while at NCSA, I watched market shares very closely. People > there are very enthusiastic in the same way, many of them seem to > think that the web is a great big competition for users attention. Is there any reason at all for bringing us into this? No offense, Rob, but having someone from Netscape accuse us at NCSA of thinking "the web is a great big competition for users attention" is pretty comical. The points you made in your post were reasonable, but you can't expect the rational responses you desire while making such a gratuitous slap at us in the same breath. To clear the air, I know that the current members of the NCSA server team welcome the efforts of Apache, and are in no way concerned about losing "market share". We think Apache serves a niche (a very LARGE niche if you will) that would be increasingly difficult for us to fill given our mission. > So if you tell me, in rational terms, what you would like the > marketing people to stop doing and why, then I'll pass the information > on to them. I can't convince anyone to do anything with the > information and threats I've seen so far. I doubt if I will be contacted by your marketing people, but if I were, I would appreciate it if, rather than thinly insult my current setup, he/she explain in detail what I am going to get for my 40% discount that I'm not getting for free right now. I realize unsolicited email is probably an effective marketing tool. What I found odd about the mailing is what a poor marketing effort it was. I could make a better case for "upgrading" to netsite than this fellow did. Stanford S. Guillory Httpd Server Development Team NCSA-University of Illinois guillory@ncsa.uiuc.edu