Return-Path: owner-new-httpd Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA10248; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:26:06 -0700 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA10198; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:25:49 -0700 Received: from volterra (volterra.ai.mit.edu) by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for new-httpd@hyperreal.com id AA26007; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:25:41 EDT From: rst@ai.mit.edu (Robert S. Thau) Received: by volterra (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA20539; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:25:38 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:25:38 EDT Message-Id: <9507261825.AA20539@volterra> To: new-httpd@hyperreal.com Cc: new-httpd@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199507261738.AA269220338@ooo.lanl.gov> (message from Rob Hartill on Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:38:58 MDT) Subject: Re: Redirect in .htaccess files? Sender: owner-new-httpd@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org From: Rob Hartill Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:38:58 MDT I've polled a few of the people on this list to find out what they have for StartServers and MaxServers It's not just too complicated for users, it's too complicted for us. Everyone seems to have misconfigured these. I've also looked at the NCSA blurb on the two, and they don't have the same meaning as ours. I vote -1 on releasing 0.8.x with these two names, unless there's a damn good reason to keep them. As alternatives I'd suggest StartServers -> ServersToKeepReady MaxServers -> ServerPoolSize This means having to do *something* about StartServers and MaxServers directives in peoples' NCSA 1.4 config files, or fail to be a drop-in replacement. -1 on that. If you want to have a StartServers parameter which means *exactly* that, a new MinFree parameter which has the effect of the current StartServers (also defaulting to 5 --- there is a measurable performance difference between that and, say, 3), and a more mnemonic alternative name for MaxServers, I could live with that, if only because it doesn't involve major changes to the code. However, at this point, I vote -1 on *any* major change to the code itself. To be blunt, I'm getting very frustrated with the whole tone of this discussion. I thought we had an agreement to stop monkeying around, and get something out the door. Very well then --- this is *not* the time to be doing design work! I thought that agreement to release something was firm enough that I told someone in public, a week ago, that we would have something out the door just about now. At this point, I think I've broken that promise, and I don't feel very good at all about that. So, are we trying to get something out the door, or would we rather just dicker *indefinitely*? rst