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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: [patch] move Apache2 setup into a common file
Date Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:50:25 GMT
Stas Bekman <> writes:

> Joe Schaefer wrote:


>> I'll withhold my -1 (veto) on this, at least for a few days.
>> But the show-stopper problem with this particular patch is
>> that you have introduced a new dependency into our doc tests.
>> So unless you also plan to install TestApReq::DocSetup somewhere,
>> users will not be able to run the doc tests post-installation.
> Well, you've asked me to how move the setup part out of the tests, and
> I did it in this way. 

Actually I said I don't know how to remove the Apache2 dependency,
and I was happy that you were willing to take a look.  But at the
moment the cure seems worse than the disease, because the pod tests
are now less valuable to both us, and to our users, than they were


> I'm not sure whether the purpose of Test::Inline is to run tests
> after install. I thought it was rather about documenting and testing
> at the same time, as you develop the tool and has nothing to do with
> the user. 

Also to facilitate better doc patches from users, who will inevitably 
find bugs in our code.  Having a way of discussing bugs in the context
of a testable pod file is something I'd like to explore, and I'm not
willing to sacrifice that idea just to support an (IMO) ill-conceived 
mp2 installer.

> In any case, there is no need to veto anything, since this is not my
> itch, so if you don't like it that's fine.

Ok, so eventually we can choose to simply remove all "use Apache2;"
statements from our codebase, and expect mp2 to properly encapsulate 
its installation hacks within ModPerl::MakeMaker.  That'll work for
me here in apreq-land.

Joe Schaefer

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