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<title>[ANN] Gaderian 1.0 Released</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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The Gaderian team is pleased to announce the first official release of
Gaderian, version 1.0.

http://gaderian.ops4j.org/

Gaderian is a component assembly framework, providing service
instantiation and configuration.

Gaderian is a fork of the recently retired Apache HiveMind
project and this release reflects the functionality as it was available
in the v1.0 trunk revision for HiveMind.

Let us know what you think!

Enjoy,

The Gaderian team

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<title>Re: Hivemind Fork at OPS4J</title>
<author><name>Raffael Herzog &lt;herzog@raffael.ch&gt;</name></author>
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Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2009 14.00:03 schrieb Raffael Herzog:
&gt; More suggestions:
[...]

Ouch, wrong list. ;)

Cheers,
   Raffi

-- 
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no difference, but in practice, there is.

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<title>Re: Hivemind Fork at OPS4J</title>
<author><name>Raffael Herzog &lt;herzog@raffael.ch&gt;</name></author>
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Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2009 13.56:01 schrieb Johan Lindquist:
&gt; One thing which you can help with already now -  a new name is needed
&gt; for Hivemind - so if you have any suggestions, please let the us know
&gt; and we'll create a short-list for a final vote over at OPS4J!
&gt;
&gt; We'll keep you posted ...

More suggestions:

- Menjangan

I find it a bit hard to remember, unfortunately.

Menjangan is a small Island between Bali and Java, known for the nice coral 
reefs for diving. I think the "hard to remember" is a killer, but maybe 
there are some divers here, that know similar places (Java, Corals) with 
better names. ;)


- Wintermute

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer

I've never read the book, unfortunately. But according to a friend of mine, 
in the book, Wintermute is sometimes also referred to as the Hivemind.


Cheers,
   Raffi

-- 
The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is
no difference, but in practice, there is.

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<title>Hivemind Fork at OPS4J</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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Hi All,

Following the recent retirement of Hivemind to the Attic, we [Raffael,
Jochen and myself] have decided to pick up and continue the
development under the OPS4J umbrella (see http://ops4j.org/ for more
information).

The original code is close to being moved into the OPS4J SVN
laboratory and if all things proceed as planned, we should be able to
provide a first, OPS4J released version shortly.

Contributions are most welcome going forward!

One thing which you can help with already now -  a new name is needed
for Hivemind - so if you have any suggestions, please let the us know
and we'll create a short-list for a final vote over at OPS4J!

We'll keep you posted ...

Cheers,

Johan

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This made me laugh.
Last of the great hivemind users?
Adam

2009/4/18 Ben Gidley &lt;ben@gidley.co.uk&gt;

&gt;
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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>alebu &lt;aleboo@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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It is very sad that such a great product with so advenced ideas just
gone. Althrought it is good that we at least now know about it. Also,
speaking about Tapestry-ioc, whats about libraries for it? There was
some choise for hivemind but it looks like that we need to start
everything from the ground. Maybe there are people who want to
participate or to share? Because I am trying to use tapestry-ioc too
and it is boring to create all the goodies from the ground.


On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, James Carman
&gt; &lt;jcarman@carmanconsulting.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sure! But with a lot more vitamin then just juice ;)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Fortified GuicyMind?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Yep!
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Massimo
&gt; http://meridio.blogspot.com
&gt;


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<title>Re: The Attic and Beyond</title>
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I'm interested too :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johan Lindquist" &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;
To: &lt;dev@hivemind.apache.org&gt;
Cc: &lt;user@hivemind.apache.org&gt;
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:31 PM
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&gt; Hi Raffael,
&gt;
&gt; I am all for this idea - not very familiar with OPS4J, but their
&gt; intentions sounds good.  Definitely would allow more contributions to
&gt; trickle in.
&gt;
&gt; So, count me in.
&gt;
&gt; Cheers,
&gt;
&gt; Johan
&gt;
&gt; Raffael Herzog wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hi all
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; So, now it's official: HiveMind's development at Apache has stopped. Time 
&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt; move on and start over. ;)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; For me, one thing is clear: I will branch HiveMind, one way or the other.
&gt;&gt; The question for me is: Which way?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; As some of you may know, I'm developing and using HiveApp, an extension 
&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt; HiveMind which adds a VFS, ClassLoader management, built-in JMX support 
&gt;&gt; and
&gt;&gt; some useful services. There are many applications based on it in 
&gt;&gt; production
&gt;&gt; (and there will be many more) and its development continues, although 
&gt;&gt; it's
&gt;&gt; currently a one-man-show (everything's open though, and anyone is free to
&gt;&gt; join: http://hiveapp.raffael.ch/).
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; So, from this point of view, the obvious thing to do is to take 
&gt;&gt; HiveMind's
&gt;&gt; source code, integrate it into HiveApp's source tree, and just continue
&gt;&gt; like that.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; However, now's the time to look further. ;) HiveMind, as it is now, is 
&gt;&gt; good,
&gt;&gt; but it's gotten a bit outdated, and development as officially stalled. 
&gt;&gt; I've
&gt;&gt; got many ideas what to do with HiveMind (you can find some of them in
&gt;&gt; HiveApp) and I'm sure, there are more people with ideas. This is the time
&gt;&gt; to progressively move forward, because there won't be any HiveMind 1.2 or
&gt;&gt; 2.0 anymore. But there may be a HiveSomethingElse 0.1.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The question is: If you had commit rights for HiveMind's source code
&gt;&gt; tomorrow, would you start contributing?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The idea is to branch HiveMind at OPS4J (http://www.ops4j.org/). OPS4J
&gt;&gt; stands for "Open Participation Software for Java", a relatively young and
&gt;&gt; active FOSS community. "Open Participation" means basically Wiki brought 
&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt; coding. Anyone can start contributing: Just register yourself, and you've
&gt;&gt; immediately got commit access to all of OPS4J's SVN. At OPS4J, if you 
&gt;&gt; find
&gt;&gt; a bug, you don't submit a patch which fixes it and wait for a committer 
&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt; apply your patch. At OPS4J, you commit the fix yourself. OPS4J provides 
&gt;&gt; all
&gt;&gt; the infrastructure one needs: Version control (SVN), bug tracking (JIRA),
&gt;&gt; Wiki (Confluence), CI (Bamboo), mailing lists, web space ...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Introduction to OPS4J: http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/ops4j/Introduction
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I think, this community might be just the right thing to kickstart
&gt;&gt; HiveMind's development. I've already talked to some people at OPS4J about
&gt;&gt; it, they'd happily welcome the HiveMind community.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; However, the question remains: Are there people who would actually
&gt;&gt; contribute?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; What do you think?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Cheers,
&gt;&gt;    Raffi
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, James Carman
&lt;jcarman@carmanconsulting.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Sure! But with a lot more vitamin then just juice ;)
&gt;
&gt; Fortified GuicyMind?
&gt;

Yep!

-- 
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com


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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>James Carman &lt;jcarman@carmanconsulting.com&gt;</name></author>
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Sure! But with a lot more vitamin then just juice ;)

Fortified GuicyMind?


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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM, James Carman
&lt;jcarman@carmanconsulting.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Yep, Martin stand right. It has all the pleasures HiveMind has without
&gt;&gt; the need of any XML
&gt;
&gt; It's like GuicyMind! :)

Sure! But with a lot more vitamin then just juice ;)

-- 
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com


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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>James Carman &lt;jcarman@carmanconsulting.com&gt;</name></author>
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yep, Martin stand right. It has all the pleasures HiveMind has without
&gt; the need of any XML

It's like GuicyMind! :)


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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Martin Strand
&lt;do.not.eat.yellow.snow@gmail.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; It doesn't require the web part of tapestry, I'm using tapestry-ioc in a desktop application
myself
&gt;
&gt; On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:28:07 +0200, Kevin Gilpin &lt;kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I guess that is a standalone library that doesn't require tapestry?

Yep, Martin stand right. It has all the pleasures HiveMind has without
the need of any XML

Regards
-- 
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com


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<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>&quot;Martin Strand&quot; &lt;do.not.eat.yellow.snow@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3cop.usi69jsh000avy@kubuntu-desktop%3e"/>
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It doesn't require the web part of tapestry, I'm using tapestry-ioc in a desktop application
myself

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:28:07 +0200, Kevin Gilpin &lt;kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; I guess that is a standalone library that doesn't require tapestry?
&gt;
&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Nothing that I know of (beyond the usual suspects in the IoC world).
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; That's a very good point though and something for the Attic to
&gt;&gt; &gt; document if any of the HiveMind community identify an obvious
&gt;&gt; &gt; candidate.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yep... as someone else already suggested Tapestry5 IoC is the natural
&gt;&gt; candidate of HiveMind.
&gt;&gt; It's the evolution of the species.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Regards
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; Massimo
&gt;&gt; http://meridio.blogspot.com


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<title>Re: The Attic and Beyond</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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Hi Raffael,

I am all for this idea - not very familiar with OPS4J, but their
intentions sounds good.  Definitely would allow more contributions to
trickle in.

So, count me in.

Cheers,

Johan

Raffael Herzog wrote:
&gt; Hi all
&gt; 
&gt; So, now it's official: HiveMind's development at Apache has stopped. Time to 
&gt; move on and start over. ;)
&gt; 
&gt; For me, one thing is clear: I will branch HiveMind, one way or the other. 
&gt; The question for me is: Which way?
&gt; 
&gt; As some of you may know, I'm developing and using HiveApp, an extension to 
&gt; HiveMind which adds a VFS, ClassLoader management, built-in JMX support and 
&gt; some useful services. There are many applications based on it in production 
&gt; (and there will be many more) and its development continues, although it's 
&gt; currently a one-man-show (everything's open though, and anyone is free to 
&gt; join: http://hiveapp.raffael.ch/).
&gt; 
&gt; So, from this point of view, the obvious thing to do is to take HiveMind's 
&gt; source code, integrate it into HiveApp's source tree, and just continue 
&gt; like that.
&gt; 
&gt; However, now's the time to look further. ;) HiveMind, as it is now, is good, 
&gt; but it's gotten a bit outdated, and development as officially stalled. I've 
&gt; got many ideas what to do with HiveMind (you can find some of them in 
&gt; HiveApp) and I'm sure, there are more people with ideas. This is the time 
&gt; to progressively move forward, because there won't be any HiveMind 1.2 or 
&gt; 2.0 anymore. But there may be a HiveSomethingElse 0.1.
&gt; 
&gt; The question is: If you had commit rights for HiveMind's source code 
&gt; tomorrow, would you start contributing?
&gt; 
&gt; The idea is to branch HiveMind at OPS4J (http://www.ops4j.org/). OPS4J 
&gt; stands for "Open Participation Software for Java", a relatively young and 
&gt; active FOSS community. "Open Participation" means basically Wiki brought to 
&gt; coding. Anyone can start contributing: Just register yourself, and you've 
&gt; immediately got commit access to all of OPS4J's SVN. At OPS4J, if you find 
&gt; a bug, you don't submit a patch which fixes it and wait for a committer to 
&gt; apply your patch. At OPS4J, you commit the fix yourself. OPS4J provides all 
&gt; the infrastructure one needs: Version control (SVN), bug tracking (JIRA), 
&gt; Wiki (Confluence), CI (Bamboo), mailing lists, web space ...
&gt; 
&gt; Introduction to OPS4J: http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/ops4j/Introduction
&gt; 
&gt; I think, this community might be just the right thing to kickstart 
&gt; HiveMind's development. I've already talked to some people at OPS4J about 
&gt; it, they'd happily welcome the HiveMind community.
&gt; 
&gt; However, the question remains: Are there people who would actually 
&gt; contribute?
&gt; 
&gt; What do you think?
&gt; 
&gt; Cheers,
&gt;    Raffi
&gt; 

- --
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</entry>
<entry>
<title>The Attic and Beyond</title>
<author><name>Raffael Herzog &lt;herzog@raffael.ch&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3c200904171355.09804.herzog@raffael.ch%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c200904171355-09804-herzog@raffael-ch%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-17T11:55:09Z</updated>
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Hi all

So, now it's official: HiveMind's development at Apache has stopped. Time to 
move on and start over. ;)

For me, one thing is clear: I will branch HiveMind, one way or the other. 
The question for me is: Which way?

As some of you may know, I'm developing and using HiveApp, an extension to 
HiveMind which adds a VFS, ClassLoader management, built-in JMX support and 
some useful services. There are many applications based on it in production 
(and there will be many more) and its development continues, although it's 
currently a one-man-show (everything's open though, and anyone is free to 
join: http://hiveapp.raffael.ch/).

So, from this point of view, the obvious thing to do is to take HiveMind's 
source code, integrate it into HiveApp's source tree, and just continue 
like that.

However, now's the time to look further. ;) HiveMind, as it is now, is good, 
but it's gotten a bit outdated, and development as officially stalled. I've 
got many ideas what to do with HiveMind (you can find some of them in 
HiveApp) and I'm sure, there are more people with ideas. This is the time 
to progressively move forward, because there won't be any HiveMind 1.2 or 
2.0 anymore. But there may be a HiveSomethingElse 0.1.

The question is: If you had commit rights for HiveMind's source code 
tomorrow, would you start contributing?

The idea is to branch HiveMind at OPS4J (http://www.ops4j.org/). OPS4J 
stands for "Open Participation Software for Java", a relatively young and 
active FOSS community. "Open Participation" means basically Wiki brought to 
coding. Anyone can start contributing: Just register yourself, and you've 
immediately got commit access to all of OPS4J's SVN. At OPS4J, if you find 
a bug, you don't submit a patch which fixes it and wait for a committer to 
apply your patch. At OPS4J, you commit the fix yourself. OPS4J provides all 
the infrastructure one needs: Version control (SVN), bug tracking (JIRA), 
Wiki (Confluence), CI (Bamboo), mailing lists, web space ...

Introduction to OPS4J: http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/ops4j/Introduction

I think, this community might be just the right thing to kickstart 
HiveMind's development. I've already talked to some people at OPS4J about 
it, they'd happily welcome the HiveMind community.

However, the question remains: Are there people who would actually 
contribute?

What do you think?

Cheers,
   Raffi

-- 
The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is
no difference, but in practice, there is.

herzog@raffael.ch Â· Jabber: herzog@raffael.ch
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</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Kevin Gilpin &lt;kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3c63f605160904170428x47a9e226qee159975cc318806@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c63f605160904170428x47a9e226qee159975cc318806@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-17T11:28:07Z</updated>
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I guess that is a standalone library that doesn't require tapestry?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Nothing that I know of (beyond the usual suspects in the IoC world).
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; That's a very good point though and something for the Attic to
&gt; &gt; document if any of the HiveMind community identify an obvious
&gt; &gt; candidate.
&gt;
&gt; Yep... as someone else already suggested Tapestry5 IoC is the natural
&gt; candidate of HiveMind.
&gt; It's the evolution of the species.
&gt;
&gt; Regards
&gt; --
&gt; Massimo
&gt; http://meridio.blogspot.com
&gt;



-- 
CTO
Praxeon Inc
kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com


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</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Massimo Lusetti &lt;mlusetti@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3ca6647e120904170057he62bdfehfc50f0089ab5b23b@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3ca6647e120904170057he62bdfehfc50f0089ab5b23b@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-17T07:57:38Z</updated>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; Nothing that I know of (beyond the usual suspects in the IoC world).
&gt;
&gt; That's a very good point though and something for the Attic to
&gt; document if any of the HiveMind community identify an obvious
&gt; candidate.

Yep... as someone else already suggested Tapestry5 IoC is the natural
candidate of HiveMind.
It's the evolution of the species.

Regards
-- 
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>kristian marinkovic &lt;kristian.marinkovic@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3c452ebb150904162309q35bbff94p479928ba2d237b9@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c452ebb150904162309q35bbff94p479928ba2d237b9@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-17T06:09:43Z</updated>
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<pre>
i now use Tapestry IOC instead... and i think guice would be
interesting as well but
not as flexible

g,kris

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Nothing that I know of (beyond the usual suspects in the IoC world).
&gt;
&gt; That's a very good point though and something for the Attic to
&gt; document if any of the HiveMind community identify an obvious
&gt; candidate.
&gt;
&gt; On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Gilpin &lt;kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Is there a recommendation to switch to an alternative framework?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; A heads up for the HiveMind user community that the HiveMind project
&gt;&gt;&gt; has been 'moved to the Attic'. This means that the HiveMind developers
&gt;&gt;&gt; (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted to retire
&gt;&gt;&gt; HiveMind and move the responsibility for its oversight over to the
&gt;&gt;&gt; Attic project.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at http://attic.apache.org.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; HiveMind is the first project to move into the Attic, so the process
&gt;&gt;&gt; will be identified as we go along. You can follow this at
&gt;&gt;&gt; https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-1 if you so wish.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks,
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Henri Yandell
&gt;&gt;&gt; on behalf of HiveMind + the Attic.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; CTO
&gt;&gt; Praxeon Inc
&gt;&gt; kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com
&gt;&gt;
&gt;


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3c31cc37360904162148o1f0edb3fy6b632dd24d398dbb@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c31cc37360904162148o1f0edb3fy6b632dd24d398dbb@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-17T04:48:26Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Nothing that I know of (beyond the usual suspects in the IoC world).

That's a very good point though and something for the Attic to
document if any of the HiveMind community identify an obvious
candidate.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Gilpin &lt;kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Is there a recommendation to switch to an alternative framework?
&gt;
&gt; On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; A heads up for the HiveMind user community that the HiveMind project
&gt;&gt; has been 'moved to the Attic'. This means that the HiveMind developers
&gt;&gt; (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted to retire
&gt;&gt; HiveMind and move the responsibility for its oversight over to the
&gt;&gt; Attic project.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at http://attic.apache.org.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; HiveMind is the first project to move into the Attic, so the process
&gt;&gt; will be identified as we go along. You can follow this at
&gt;&gt; https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-1 if you so wish.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Thanks,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Henri Yandell
&gt;&gt; on behalf of HiveMind + the Attic.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; CTO
&gt; Praxeon Inc
&gt; kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com
&gt;


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</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: [ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Kevin Gilpin &lt;kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3c63f605160904160733p3011834ft1c10d5d938023a7d@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c63f605160904160733p3011834ft1c10d5d938023a7d@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-16T14:33:38Z</updated>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
Is there a recommendation to switch to an alternative framework?

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; A heads up for the HiveMind user community that the HiveMind project
&gt; has been 'moved to the Attic'. This means that the HiveMind developers
&gt; (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted to retire
&gt; HiveMind and move the responsibility for its oversight over to the
&gt; Attic project.
&gt;
&gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at http://attic.apache.org.
&gt;
&gt; HiveMind is the first project to move into the Attic, so the process
&gt; will be identified as we go along. You can follow this at
&gt; https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-1 if you so wish.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt;
&gt; Henri Yandell
&gt; on behalf of HiveMind + the Attic.
&gt;



-- 
CTO
Praxeon Inc
kevin.gilpin@praxeon.com


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</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>[ann] HiveMind retirement</title>
<author><name>Henri Yandell &lt;flamefew@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200904.mbox/%3c31cc37360904152020m339cc82bwd581c9d3da237456@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c31cc37360904152020m339cc82bwd581c9d3da237456@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-04-16T03:20:41Z</updated>
<content type="xhtml">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<pre>
A heads up for the HiveMind user community that the HiveMind project
has been 'moved to the Attic'. This means that the HiveMind developers
(more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted to retire
HiveMind and move the responsibility for its oversight over to the
Attic project.

You can read more about the Apache Attic at http://attic.apache.org.

HiveMind is the first project to move into the Attic, so the process
will be identified as we go along. You can follow this at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-1 if you so wish.

Thanks,

Henri Yandell
on behalf of HiveMind + the Attic.


</pre>
</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: Howto log parameter values for construct using invoke-factory</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200901.mbox/%3c4970A176.2030809@kawoo.co.uk%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c4970A176-2030809@kawoo-co-uk%3e</id>
<updated>2009-01-16T15:02:14Z</updated>
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Hi Joacim,

The values will not be logged unless you enable debugging
for the com.mycompany.services.MyService category (as you have seen I
assume from your comment about production vs debug).

An interceptor won't help either in this case since the set operation
happens on the core implementation.

For what it is worth, we tend to add this sort of output in the
intializeService method - where we also do some sanity check about
services being available etc.

Cheers,

Johan


Joacim Turesson wrote:
&gt; Hi!
&gt; 
&gt; I have recently started to work with HiveMind.
&gt; 
&gt; Is it possible to log the parameter values used when construct is called
&gt; for invoke-factory?
&gt; May I use an interceptor? If so how?
&gt; Or do I have to implement my own BuildFactory?
&gt; 
&gt; I'm not sure if I make any sense, below is an example:
&gt; 
&gt; &lt;service-point id="MyService" interface="com.mycompany.services.MyService"&gt;
&gt;    &lt;invoke-factory service-id="hivemind.BuilderFactory" model="singleton"&gt;
&gt;       &lt;construct class="com.mycompany.services.MyServiceImpl"&gt;
&gt;          &lt;string&gt;
&gt;             ${service/myservice/param}
&gt;          &lt;/string&gt;
&gt;       &lt;/construct&gt;
&gt;    &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&gt; &lt;/service-point&gt;
&gt; 
&gt; I want to log the value of ${service/myservice/param} and I want to log
&gt; it in production, not just when debugging.
&gt; 
&gt; Tanks in advance!
&gt; 
&gt; Best regards
&gt; 
&gt; Joacim Turesson
&gt; 

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<entry>
<title>Howto log parameter values for construct using invoke-factory</title>
<author><name>&quot;Joacim Turesson&quot; &lt;joacim.turesson@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200901.mbox/%3c5db3f0270901160627s355d5545j38d7718cf77c1b73@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3c5db3f0270901160627s355d5545j38d7718cf77c1b73@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2009-01-16T14:27:57Z</updated>
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Hi!

I have recently started to work with HiveMind.

Is it possible to log the parameter values used when construct is called for
invoke-factory?
May I use an interceptor? If so how?
Or do I have to implement my own BuildFactory?

I'm not sure if I make any sense, below is an example:

&lt;service-point id="MyService" interface="com.mycompany.services.MyService"&gt;
   &lt;invoke-factory service-id="hivemind.BuilderFactory" model="singleton"&gt;
      &lt;construct class="com.mycompany.services.MyServiceImpl"&gt;
         &lt;string&gt;
            ${service/myservice/param}
         &lt;/string&gt;
      &lt;/construct&gt;
   &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&lt;/service-point&gt;

I want to log the value of ${service/myservice/param} and I want to log it
in production, not just when debugging.

Tanks in advance!

Best regards

Joacim Turesson


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</div>
</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>ApacheCon live video streaming available; keynotes and Apache 101 are free</title>
<author><name>&quot;James Carman&quot; &lt;james@carmanconsulting.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200811.mbox/%3cf2e8eedf0811040833s2a94ff58hd6cb47f1b06e47e1@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3cf2e8eedf0811040833s2a94ff58hd6cb47f1b06e47e1@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
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Can't make ApacheCon this week in New Orleans?  You can still watch all
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</content>
</entry>
<entry>
<title>Re: Dozer and Hivemind Integration - injecting a list of string</title>
<author><name>&quot;Ed Ross&quot; &lt;edross15057@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
<link rel="alternate" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hivemind-user/200810.mbox/%3cd22230a30810041829y7e0cb696k362d6f2cf68ac1bb@mail.gmail.com%3e"/>
<id>urn:uuid:%3cd22230a30810041829y7e0cb696k362d6f2cf68ac1bb@mail-gmail-com%3e</id>
<updated>2008-10-05T01:29:23Z</updated>
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unsubscribe

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, alina2 &lt;aquereilhac@yahoo.es&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Hello,
&gt;         i am new to hivemind and i wanted to integrate
&gt; http://dozer.sourceforge.net/ Dozer  (a "Java Bean to Java Bean mapper")
&gt; to
&gt; the application i am working at.
&gt; I spent some time trying to figure out how to do this, so i post the
&gt; solution i found in case it turns out to be useful for someone else too (or
&gt; so it can be improved by others).
&gt;
&gt;   &lt;service-point id="mapperService"
&gt; interface="net.sf.dozer.util.mapping.MapperIF" /&gt;
&gt;
&gt;   &lt;configuration-point id="mappingFiles"&gt;
&gt;          &lt;schema&gt;
&gt;              &lt;element name="mappingFile"&gt;
&gt;                  &lt;attribute name="value" required="true"/&gt;
&gt;                  &lt;rules&gt;
&gt;                    &lt;push-attribute attribute="value"/&gt;
&gt;                    &lt;invoke-parent method="addElement"/&gt;
&gt;                  &lt;/rules&gt;
&gt;                &lt;/element&gt;
&gt;          &lt;/schema&gt;
&gt;    &lt;/configuration-point&gt;
&gt;
&gt;    &lt;contribution configuration-id="mappingFiles"&gt;
&gt;         &lt;mappingFile value="dozerBeanMapping.xml" /&gt;
&gt;    &lt;/contribution&gt;
&gt;
&gt;      &lt;implementation service-id="mapperService"&gt;
&gt;        &lt;invoke-factory&gt;
&gt;            &lt;construct class="net.sf.dozer.util.mapping.DozerBeanMapper"&gt;
&gt;              &lt;set-configuration property="mappingFiles"
&gt; configuration-id="mappingFiles"/&gt;
&gt;            &lt;/construct&gt;
&gt;          &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&gt;      &lt;/implementation&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; alina.
&gt; --
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<entry>
<title>Dozer and Hivemind Integration - injecting a list of string</title>
<author><name>alina2 &lt;aquereilhac@yahoo.es&gt;</name></author>
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Hello,
         i am new to hivemind and i wanted to integrate 
http://dozer.sourceforge.net/ Dozer  (a "Java Bean to Java Bean mapper") to
the application i am working at.
I spent some time trying to figure out how to do this, so i post the
solution i found in case it turns out to be useful for someone else too (or
so it can be improved by others).

   &lt;service-point id="mapperService"
interface="net.sf.dozer.util.mapping.MapperIF" /&gt;

   &lt;configuration-point id="mappingFiles"&gt;
          &lt;schema&gt;
              &lt;element name="mappingFile"&gt;           
                  &lt;attribute name="value" required="true"/&gt;
                  &lt;rules&gt;
                    &lt;push-attribute attribute="value"/&gt;
                    &lt;invoke-parent method="addElement"/&gt;
                  &lt;/rules&gt;
                &lt;/element&gt;
          &lt;/schema&gt; 
    &lt;/configuration-point&gt;
   
    &lt;contribution configuration-id="mappingFiles"&gt;
         &lt;mappingFile value="dozerBeanMapping.xml" /&gt;
    &lt;/contribution&gt;

      &lt;implementation service-id="mapperService"&gt;
        &lt;invoke-factory&gt;             
            &lt;construct class="net.sf.dozer.util.mapping.DozerBeanMapper"&gt;
              &lt;set-configuration property="mappingFiles"
configuration-id="mappingFiles"/&gt;
            &lt;/construct&gt;
          &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
      &lt;/implementation&gt;  

Cheers,
alina.    
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<entry>
<title>Re: Hivemind .properties file ???</title>
<author><name>imorales &lt;imorales@ignos.com&gt;</name></author>
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I changed the PropertyFileSymbolSource now the class search the file inside
the war file.
Everything ok ;)

thanks Johan.


Johan Lindquist wrote:
&gt; 
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&gt; Ok, that won't help then - should have read it a little closer ;)
&gt; 
&gt; Then I think you are limited in your options:
&gt; 
&gt; - - Build on the hiveutils symbol source and write your own symbol source
&gt; - - Convert you property file into a hivemodule, contributing to
&gt; hivemind.ApplicationDefaults from within that.
&gt; 
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; 
&gt; Johan
&gt; 
&gt; imorales wrote:
&gt;&gt; Thansk for the response, that helps but not at all.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Reading the "Externalizing properties outside the war file" when you
&gt;&gt; specify
&gt;&gt; the 
&gt;&gt;  "&lt;property-source file="c:/mysettings.properties"/&gt;" this is a file
&gt;&gt; outside
&gt;&gt; the war file and you have to difine the absolute path to the property
&gt;&gt; file,
&gt;&gt; but in my case I need to define a relative path because the property file
&gt;&gt; is
&gt;&gt; inside the war file. Any ideas ?
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Thanks again.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Johan Lindquist wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hi,
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; The hiveutils project [1] has an option to provide properties files as a
&gt;&gt; source of values for the substitution (which is what you are looking for
&gt;&gt; I think).
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; The property file would be registered as a symbol source within
&gt;&gt; Hivemind, and hivemind would use the values from it when creating your
&gt;&gt; service.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Hope that helps,
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Cheers,
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Johan
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; [1]
&gt;&gt; http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/web/quickstart.html#start.external.symbols
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; imorales wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi all. IÂ´m using Hivemind1. Is it possible configure hivemodule.xml
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; property file?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I would like to have a hivemodule.properties like this:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urlService=http://myservice.com
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urlService2=http://myservice2.com
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And in the hivemodule xml do this: 
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;service-point id="....." interface="......."&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     &lt;invoke-factory model="threaded"&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;         &lt;construct class="my.package.myService"&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     		&lt;string&gt;${urlService}&lt;/string&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;          &lt;/construct&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   &lt;/service-point&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I would like to do something like that, it is posible in with hivemind
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; do
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; that ???
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; 
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<title>Re: Hivemind .properties file ???</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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Ok, that won't help then - should have read it a little closer ;)

Then I think you are limited in your options:

- - Build on the hiveutils symbol source and write your own symbol source
- - Convert you property file into a hivemodule, contributing to
hivemind.ApplicationDefaults from within that.

Cheers,

Johan

imorales wrote:
&gt; Thansk for the response, that helps but not at all.
&gt; 
&gt; Reading the "Externalizing properties outside the war file" when you specify
&gt; the 
&gt;  "&lt;property-source file="c:/mysettings.properties"/&gt;" this is a file outside
&gt; the war file and you have to difine the absolute path to the property file,
&gt; but in my case I need to define a relative path because the property file is
&gt; inside the war file. Any ideas ?
&gt; 
&gt; Thanks again.
&gt; 
&gt; Johan Lindquist wrote:
&gt; Hi,
&gt; 
&gt; The hiveutils project [1] has an option to provide properties files as a
&gt; source of values for the substitution (which is what you are looking for
&gt; I think).
&gt; 
&gt; The property file would be registered as a symbol source within
&gt; Hivemind, and hivemind would use the values from it when creating your
&gt; service.
&gt; 
&gt; Hope that helps,
&gt; 
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; 
&gt; Johan
&gt; 
&gt; [1]
&gt; http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/web/quickstart.html#start.external.symbols
&gt; 
&gt; imorales wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi all. IÂ´m using Hivemind1. Is it possible configure hivemodule.xml with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; property file?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I would like to have a hivemodule.properties like this:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urlService=http://myservice.com
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urlService2=http://myservice2.com
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And in the hivemodule xml do this: 
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;service-point id="....." interface="......."&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     &lt;invoke-factory model="threaded"&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;         &lt;construct class="my.package.myService"&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     		&lt;string&gt;${urlService}&lt;/string&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;          &lt;/construct&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   &lt;/service-point&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I would like to do something like that, it is posible in with hivemind do
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; that ???
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;

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<title>Re: Hivemind .properties file ???</title>
<author><name>imorales &lt;imorales@ignos.com&gt;</name></author>
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Thansk for the response, that helps but not at all.

Reading the "Externalizing properties outside the war file" when you specify
the 
 "&lt;property-source file="c:/mysettings.properties"/&gt;" this is a file outside
the war file and you have to difine the absolute path to the property file,
but in my case I need to define a relative path because the property file is
inside the war file. Any ideas ?

Thanks again.

Johan Lindquist wrote:
&gt; 
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&gt; Hash: SHA1
&gt; 
&gt; Hi,
&gt; 
&gt; The hiveutils project [1] has an option to provide properties files as a
&gt; source of values for the substitution (which is what you are looking for
&gt; I think).
&gt; 
&gt; The property file would be registered as a symbol source within
&gt; Hivemind, and hivemind would use the values from it when creating your
&gt; service.
&gt; 
&gt; Hope that helps,
&gt; 
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; 
&gt; Johan
&gt; 
&gt; [1]
&gt; http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/web/quickstart.html#start.external.symbols
&gt; 
&gt; imorales wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hi all. IÂ´m using Hivemind1. Is it possible configure hivemodule.xml with
&gt;&gt; a
&gt;&gt; property file?
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; I would like to have a hivemodule.properties like this:
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; --------------------------------
&gt;&gt; urlService=http://myservice.com
&gt;&gt; urlService2=http://myservice2.com
&gt;&gt; --------------------------------
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; And in the hivemodule xml do this: 
&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt;&gt; &lt;service-point id="....." interface="......."&gt;
&gt;&gt;     &lt;invoke-factory model="threaded"&gt;
&gt;&gt;         &lt;construct class="my.package.myService"&gt;
&gt;&gt;     		&lt;string&gt;${urlService}&lt;/string&gt;
&gt;&gt;          &lt;/construct&gt;
&gt;&gt;     &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&gt;&gt;   &lt;/service-point&gt;
&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt;&gt; I would like to do something like that, it is posible in with hivemind do
&gt;&gt; that ???
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance.
&gt; 
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<title>Re: Hivemind .properties file ???</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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Hi,

The hiveutils project [1] has an option to provide properties files as a
source of values for the substitution (which is what you are looking for
I think).

The property file would be registered as a symbol source within
Hivemind, and hivemind would use the values from it when creating your
service.

Hope that helps,

Cheers,

Johan

[1]
http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/web/quickstart.html#start.external.symbols

imorales wrote:
&gt; Hi all. IÂ´m using Hivemind1. Is it possible configure hivemodule.xml with a
&gt; property file?
&gt; 
&gt; I would like to have a hivemodule.properties like this:
&gt; 
&gt; --------------------------------
&gt; urlService=http://myservice.com
&gt; urlService2=http://myservice2.com
&gt; --------------------------------
&gt; 
&gt; And in the hivemodule xml do this: 
&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt; &lt;service-point id="....." interface="......."&gt;
&gt;     &lt;invoke-factory model="threaded"&gt;
&gt;         &lt;construct class="my.package.myService"&gt;
&gt;     		&lt;string&gt;${urlService}&lt;/string&gt;
&gt;          &lt;/construct&gt;
&gt;     &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
&gt;   &lt;/service-point&gt;
&gt; ------------------------------------
&gt; I would like to do something like that, it is posible in with hivemind do
&gt; that ???
&gt; 
&gt; Thanks in advance.

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<title>Hivemind .properties file ???</title>
<author><name>imorales &lt;imorales@ignos.com&gt;</name></author>
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Hi all. IÂ´m using Hivemind1. Is it possible configure hivemodule.xml with a
property file?

I would like to have a hivemodule.properties like this:

--------------------------------
urlService=http://myservice.com
urlService2=http://myservice2.com
--------------------------------

And in the hivemodule xml do this: 
------------------------------------
&lt;service-point id="....." interface="......."&gt;
    &lt;invoke-factory model="threaded"&gt;
        &lt;construct class="my.package.myService"&gt;
    		&lt;string&gt;${urlService}&lt;/string&gt;
         &lt;/construct&gt;
    &lt;/invoke-factory&gt;
  &lt;/service-point&gt;
------------------------------------
I would like to do something like that, it is posible in with hivemind do
that ???

Thanks in advance.
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<entry>
<title>Re: Registry as a property</title>
<author><name>&quot;Davor Hrg&quot; &lt;hrgdavor@gmail.com&gt;</name></author>
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Use mapped configuration,

cntribute all workers to it, named with a string,
use that mapped configuration to get the needed worker...

check the tapestry site for more info on Mapped configuration
...

Davor Hrg

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:49 PM, &lt;flidp@gmx.de&gt; wrote:

&gt; Hello everyone!
&gt;
&gt; I want to do something like this (simplified)
&gt;
&gt; public class someService {
&gt;
&gt;  private Registry _registry;
&gt;
&gt;  public void doSomething(String sPoint, Object obj) {
&gt;
&gt;  SomeInterface worker = _registry.getService(sPoint, someInterface.class);
&gt;  worker.doTheWork(obj);
&gt;
&gt;  }
&gt;
&gt;  ... getter/setter ....
&gt;
&gt; }
&gt;
&gt; someService is a service constructed by the registry and has a property
&gt; holding the registry again ... is this possible?
&gt; Or is there another way to do something like this?
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for any suggestions!
&gt;
&gt;


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<title>Registry as a property</title>
<author><name>flidp@gmx.de</name></author>
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Hello everyone!

I want to do something like this (simplified)

public class someService {

  private Registry _registry;

  public void doSomething(String sPoint, Object obj) {

  SomeInterface worker = _registry.getService(sPoint, someInterface.class);
  worker.doTheWork(obj);

  }

  ... getter/setter ....

}

someService is a service constructed by the registry and has a property holding the registry
again ... is this possible?
Or is there another way to do something like this?

Thanks for any suggestions!



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<entry>
<title>Re: Stop hivemind on errors/warnings</title>
<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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Hi Thomas,

To prevent this behaviour, register a "strict" error handler, which will
propagate the errors to the application layer.

The code looks something like below:

// Create a new registry builder, specifying the strict error handler
RegistryBuilder builder = new RegistryBuilder(new StrictErrorHandler());
// Add the default module provider
builder.addDefaultModuleDescriptorProvider();
// Boot the registry
Registry registry = builder.constructRegistry(Locale.getDefault());

I hope that helps,

Cheers,

Johan

hamtho wrote:
| Hi,
|
| currently my hivemind simple ignores any erroneous hivemind-contributions,
| which might lead to some errors later on. Is there any chance to stop
| hivemind from deploying/further processing if there is any error
instead of
| ignoring this contribution?
|
| Any help is greatly appriciated
|
| Thomas

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<title>Stop hivemind on errors/warnings</title>
<author><name>hamtho &lt;thamacher@project-team.de&gt;</name></author>
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Hi,

currently my hivemind simple ignores any erroneous hivemind-contributions,
which might lead to some errors later on. Is there any chance to stop
hivemind from deploying/further processing if there is any error instead of
ignoring this contribution?

Any help is greatly appriciated

Thomas
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<author><name>hamtho &lt;thamacher@project-team.de&gt;</name></author>
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Hi,

currently my hivemind simple ignores any erroneous hivemind-contributions,
which might lead to some errors later on. Is there any chance to stop
hivemind from deploying/further processing if there is any error instead of
ignoring this contribution?

Any help is greatly appriciated

Thomas
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<author><name>Johan Lindquist &lt;johan@kawoo.co.uk&gt;</name></author>
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Hi,

Looks interesting - would be very useful when you want to expose a more
extended API to internal components (could mark the extended service as
visibility="private") while only exposing a sub-set of the API to
external components.

You should consider submitting it as an enhancement :)

Cheers,

Johan

sardine wrote:
| If you want to share the same implementation or instance between different
| service interfaces, please consult
| http://imsardine.blogspot.com/2008/03/hivemind-how-to-share-same.html
here .
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If you want to share the same implementation or instance between different
service interfaces, please consult 
http://imsardine.blogspot.com/2008/03/hivemind-how-to-share-same.html here .

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<title>Re: Newbie question: Is Hivemind well-suited for this task?</title>
<author><name>mister bean &lt;abinstock@pacificdataworks.com&gt;</name></author>
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Thank you, Johan; that's very helpful. I appreciate it. ---mr. bean


Johan Lindquist wrote:
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&gt; Hi,
&gt; 
&gt; Hivemind does provide the plugability to you are looking for in the
&gt; sense that you could have each plug-in defined as a service and each
&gt; plug-in providing it's own information (for simplicity, the name and
&gt; service id ) to a central configuration (a configuration point) that can
&gt; be accessed at runtime by a plug-in lookup manager.  To load a
&gt; particular plug-in, it could use the plug-in name to lookup the
&gt; associated plug-in service id (from the configuration point).
&gt; 
&gt; I guess what this brings to you is a dynamic way of registering new
&gt; plugins, simply dropping in a new plug-in jar would automagically
&gt; register it in the system.  The command line switches could then, in
&gt; theory, be reduced to the user selecting the name of which plug-in to use.
&gt; 
&gt; Hope that helps somewhat.
&gt; 
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; 
&gt; Johan
&gt; 
&gt; mister bean wrote:
&gt; | I am deep into a project that reads in a data file, massages it, and
&gt; writes
&gt; | out reports in various formats(spreadsheets, SVG chart, PDF, etc.). It
&gt; | currently uses plug-ins for the data massaging and for the various
&gt; output
&gt; | formats. These plug-ins are JAR files that are loaded via a standard
&gt; class
&gt; | loader.
&gt; |
&gt; | Which plug-in to use when is determined by command-line switches. The
&gt; code
&gt; | examines them and then loads, let's say, the PDF plugin. Because this
&gt; is all
&gt; | done in code, it casts the plug-in location process into stone. I am
&gt; about
&gt; | to externalize this step, by using an XML config file. (PDF output?
&gt; Look up
&gt; | in the config file which plug-in JAR to use). This way, I can add new
&gt; | plugins and capabilities without having to change the code.
&gt; |
&gt; | Before I make this change, I am beginning to wonder whether HiveMind
&gt; would
&gt; | make better sense here. If so, what would it bring me that I don't get
&gt; by
&gt; | using a simple XML config file? My sense is that HiveMind is probably
&gt; | overkill for what I need. But I would appreciate some thoughts from
&gt; users
&gt; | before I commit to lots of time on the learning curve (rewarding as that
&gt; | might be ;-) to solve this specific problem.
&gt; |
&gt; | Many thanks in advance.
&gt; |
&gt; | ---mr. bean
&gt; |
&gt; |
&gt; 
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