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From hivemind-...@jakarta.apache.org
Subject [Jakarta HiveMind Wiki] Updated: NotXMLProposal
Date Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:21:08 GMT
   Date: 2004-07-02T09:21:08
   Editor: NareshSikha <naresh.sikha@schwab.com>
   Wiki: Jakarta HiveMind Wiki
   Page: NotXMLProposal
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-hivemind/NotXMLProposal

   no comment

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 HowardLewisShip: I'm not saying that you '''can't''' build beans using the scripting language
of your choice. I'm simply saying that doing so, you may lose some of the benefits of !HiveMind.
 HiveDoc, for starters.  Line precise error reporting, potentially. And it adds to the dependencies.
I'd certainly endorse the idea of an add-on library to let you use scripting if that's your
way, but I don't want to see the core of !HiveMind screwed just to support scripting, which
only ''some'' people think is the One True Path.
 
 SteveGibson: For us, we use a lot of XML already, so being able to keep XML for me is very
important. A lot of people are saying they don't want to invent a new language - SDL. Well,
to me, this looks a lot like IBMs Stanza format, used in AIX forever, and also the configuration
format a company I used to work for came up with - purely because you specify the object you
want to create and assign the properties. I think the SDL is very readable, and would probably
use it if we didn't already use lots of XML files and *gasp* properties files.
+
+NareshSikha: I hope that the bulk of Hivemind Services and Configurations are written by
junior developers who are more concerned about their resume than the strength of the architecture
they are fulfilling. This will afford more time for architects and leads to solve the interesting
problems. Therefore I think '''tools''' should be delivered to help devlopers author valid
module definitions (Eclipse plugins are a good starting point). Then the details of the definition
are more or less irrelevant. Barring that, please, please, give junior developers a chance
to strength their industry standard skills in XML and what not by allowing for industry standard
means for communicating metadata (XML).

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