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From Elliot West <>
Subject Re: ACID ORC file reader issue with uncompacted data
Date Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:37:44 GMT
Thanks for the heads-up and use case validation.

In the case of the file names, what function does the additional id perform
(presuming the first two are still transaction id bounds)?

On 29 April 2015 at 18:37, Eugene Koifman <> wrote:

>  This is not an answer to your question, but FYI.  The work in
> will change how the delta
> files are named which may affect your work.
> Once that work is complete, the deltas will be named delta_xxx_yyy_zz, so
> you may have delta_*002_*002_1,delta_*002_*002_2, …
>  Reading data before 1st compaction is definitely a valid use case.
>   From: Elliot West <>
> Reply-To: "" <>
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:40 AM
> To: "" <>
> Subject: ACID ORC file reader issue with uncompacted data
>   Hi,
>  I'm implementing a tap to read Hive ORC ACID date into Cascading jobs and
> I've hit a couple of issues for a particular scenario. The case I have is
> when data has been written into a transactional table and a compaction has
> not yet occurred. This can be recreated like so:
>   CREATE TABLE test_table ( id int, message string )
>    PARTITIONED BY ( continent string, country string )
>    TBLPROPERTIES ('transactional' = 'true')
>  );
>   INSERT INTO TABLE test_table
>  PARTITION (continent = 'Asia', country = 'India')
>  VALUES (1, 'x'), (2, 'y'), (3, 'z');
>  This results in a dataset that contains only a delta file:
> warehouse/test_table/continent=Asia/country=India/delta_0000060_0000060/bucket_00000
>  I'm assuming that this scenario is valid - a user might insert new data
> into a table and want to read it back at a time prior to the first
> compaction. I can select the data back from this table in Hive with no
> problem. However, for a number of reasons I'm finding it rather tricky to
> do so programmatically. At this point I should mention that reading base
> files or base+deltas is trouble free. The issues I've encountered are as
> follows:
>    1.,
>    ReaderOptions) fails if the directory specified by the path ('
>    warehouse/test_table/continent=Asia/country=India' in this case)
>    contains only a delta. Specifically it attempts to access
>    'delta_0000060_0000060' as if it were a file and therefore fails. It
>    appears to function correctly if the directory also contains a base. We use
>    this method to extract the typeInfo from the ORCFile and build a mapping
>    between the user's declared fields.
>    2. is seemingly
>    inconsistent in that it returns the path of the base if present, otherwise
>    the parent. This presents issues within cascading (and I assume other
>    frameworks) that expect the paths returned by splits to be at the same
>    depth and for them to contain some kind of 'part' file leaf. In my example
>    the path returned is 'warehouse/test_table/continent=Asia/country=India',
>    if I had also had a base I'd have seen '
>    warehouse/test_table/continent=Asia/country=India/base_0000006'.
>    3. The footers of the delta files do not contain the true field names
>    of the table. In my example I see '_col0:int,_col1:string' where I'd
>    expect 'id:int,message:string'. A base file, if present correctly
>    declares the field names. We chose to access values by field name rather
>    than position so that users of our reader do not need to declare the full
>    schema to read partial data, however this behaviour trips this up.
> I have (horrifically :) worked around issues 1 and 2 in my own code and
> have some ideas to circumvent 3 but I wanted to get a feeling as to whether
> I'm going against the tide and if my life might be easier if I approached
> this another way.
>  Thanks - Elliot.

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