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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Sponsoring Howl as an Apache Incubator project
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:11:53 -0800
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Yes, it adds Input and Output formats for MapReduce and load and store  
functions for Pig.  In the future it we expect it will continue to add  
more additional layers.

Alan.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:49 PM, John Sichi wrote:

> But Howl does layer on some additional code, right?
>
> https://github.com/yahoo/howl/tree/howl/howl
>
> JVS
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Ashutosh Chauhan wrote:
>
>> There are none as of today. In the past, whenever we had to have
>> changes, we do it in a separate branch in Howl and once those get
>> committed to hive repo, we pull it over in our trunk and drop the
>> branch.
>>
>> Ashutosh
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 13:41, yongqiang he  
>> <heyongqiangict@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I am interested in some numbers around the lines of code changes (or
>>> files of changes) which are in Howl but not in Hive?
>>> Can anyone give some information here?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Yongqiang
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Jeff Hammerbacher <hammer@cloudera.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we do go ahead with pulling the metastore out of Hive, it  
>>>>> might make
>>>>> most sense for Howl to become its own TLP rather than a  
>>>>> subproject.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I did not read the proposal closely enough. I think an end  
>>>> state as a
>>>> TLP makes more sense for Howl than as a Pig subproject. I'd  
>>>> really love to
>>>> see Howl replace the metastore in Hive and it would be more  
>>>> natural to do so
>>>> as a TLP than as a Pig subproject--especially since the current  
>>>> Howl
>>>> repository is literally a fork of Hive.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the incubator proposal, we have mentioned these issues, but  
>>>>> we've
>>>>> attempted to avoid prejudicing any decision.  Instead, we'd like  
>>>>> to assess
>>>>> the pros and cons (including effort required and impact  
>>>>> expected) for both
>>>>> approaches as part of the incubation process.
>>>>
>>>> Glad the issues are being considered.
>>>> Later,
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>