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From John Sichi <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Sponsoring Howl as an Apache Incubator project
Date Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:49:03 GMT
But Howl does layer on some additional code, right?


On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Ashutosh Chauhan wrote:

> There are none as of today. In the past, whenever we had to have
> changes, we do it in a separate branch in Howl and once those get
> committed to hive repo, we pull it over in our trunk and drop the
> branch.
> Ashutosh
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 13:41, yongqiang he <> wrote:
>> I am interested in some numbers around the lines of code changes (or
>> files of changes) which are in Howl but not in Hive?
>> Can anyone give some information here?
>> Thanks
>> Yongqiang
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Jeff Hammerbacher <> wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>> If we do go ahead with pulling the metastore out of Hive, it might make
>>>> most sense for Howl to become its own TLP rather than a subproject.
>>> Yes, I did not read the proposal closely enough. I think an end state as a
>>> TLP makes more sense for Howl than as a Pig subproject. I'd really love to
>>> see Howl replace the metastore in Hive and it would be more natural to do so
>>> as a TLP than as a Pig subproject--especially since the current Howl
>>> repository is literally a fork of Hive.
>>>> In the incubator proposal, we have mentioned these issues, but we've
>>>> attempted to avoid prejudicing any decision.  Instead, we'd like to assess
>>>> the pros and cons (including effort required and impact expected) for both
>>>> approaches as part of the incubation process.
>>> Glad the issues are being considered.
>>> Later,
>>> Jeff

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