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From Jay Booth <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Sponsoring Howl as an Apache Incubator project
Date Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:52:58 GMT
Food for thought, what if the metastore were moved to Howl more
aggressively?  It seems like the end state everyone's aiming for is
that Hive and Pig share Howl as a metastore layer, which makes all
kinds of sense..  would it increase the chances of long term success
if you guys just went for it and introduced the Hive->Howl dependency
as soon as possible?  It would probably create some short term
disruption but it could be more healthy for Howl assuming that things
were worked out, design choices could be validated faster, you have
that end-to-end "it works" thing going, etc.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ashutosh Chauhan <> wrote:
> +1
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:18, Alan Gates <> wrote:
>> Howl is a table management system built to provide metadata and storage
>> management across data processing tools in Hadoop (Pig, Hive, MapReduce,
>> ...).  You can learn more details at  For
>> the last six months the code has been hosted at github.  The Howl team would
>> like to move the project into the Apache Incubator.  You can see the
>> proposal for the project at
>> In order to be accepted as an Incubator project Howl needs a Sponsoring
>> project.  I propose that we, the Pig project, sponsor Howl.  By sponsoring
>> Howl we are saying that we believe it is a good fit for the ASF and that we
>> will assist the Howl project to succeed.  You can read full details of
>> sponsoring a project at
>> Our bylaws don't explicitly cover such a vote, but I think lazy majority
>> should be reasonable.  All votes are welcome, PMC member votes will be
>> binding.
>> Clearly I'm +1.
>> Alan.

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