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From Alan Gates <ga...@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Sponsoring Howl as an Apache Incubator project
Date Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:09:08 GMT
Are you referring to the serde jar or any particular serde's we are  
making use of?

Alan.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:30 PM, John Sichi wrote:

> I forgot about the serde dependencies...can you add those to the  
> Initial Source note in [[HowlProposal]] just for completeness?
>
> JVS
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Alan Gates wrote:
>
>> Yes, it adds Input and Output formats for MapReduce and load and  
>> store functions for Pig.  In the future it we expect it will  
>> continue to add more additional layers.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:49 PM, John Sichi wrote:
>>
>>> But Howl does layer on some additional code, right?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/yahoo/howl/tree/howl/howl
>>>
>>> JVS
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Ashutosh Chauhan wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are none as of today. In the past, whenever we had to have
>>>> changes, we do it in a separate branch in Howl and once those get
>>>> committed to hive repo, we pull it over in our trunk and drop the
>>>> branch.
>>>>
>>>> Ashutosh
>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 13:41, yongqiang he <heyongqiangict@gmail.com 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> I am interested in some numbers around the lines of code changes  
>>>>> (or
>>>>> files of changes) which are in Howl but not in Hive?
>>>>> Can anyone give some information here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Yongqiang
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Jeff Hammerbacher <hammer@cloudera.com

>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we do go ahead with pulling the metastore out of Hive, it
 
>>>>>>> might make
>>>>>>> most sense for Howl to become its own TLP rather than a  
>>>>>>> subproject.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I did not read the proposal closely enough. I think an end 

>>>>>> state as a
>>>>>> TLP makes more sense for Howl than as a Pig subproject. I'd  
>>>>>> really love to
>>>>>> see Howl replace the metastore in Hive and it would be more  
>>>>>> natural to do so
>>>>>> as a TLP than as a Pig subproject--especially since the current 

>>>>>> Howl
>>>>>> repository is literally a fork of Hive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the incubator proposal, we have mentioned these issues, but
 
>>>>>>> we've
>>>>>>> attempted to avoid prejudicing any decision.  Instead, we'd 

>>>>>>> like to assess
>>>>>>> the pros and cons (including effort required and impact  
>>>>>>> expected) for both
>>>>>>> approaches as part of the incubation process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad the issues are being considered.
>>>>>> Later,
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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