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From Alan Gates <alanfga...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Separating out the metastore as its own TLP
Date Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:13:15 GMT
I’ve collected the naming suggestions on the wiki at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/Metastore+TLP+Proposal
 Please feel free to add additional ones there.

Alan.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Gopal Vijayaraghavan <gopalv@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Changing the name isn't really optional or "being google-able" [2].
>
> The naming is a crucial part of trademark protection [1], which is the
> only protection ASF has against hostile Embrace & Extends.
>
> Fragmented forks with the same name is particularly bad, especially if the
> feature in question can be only used by a proprietary tool (like Dain's
> suggestion about Presto view metadata, except it only works with a per-cpu
> license).
>
> The safe path isn't pretty, it still ends up with IcedTea and IceWeasel …
> but at least, those are clearly weird.
>
> Cheers,
> Gopal
>
> [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_moron_in_a_hurry#United_States
> [2] - https://packages.debian.org/jessie/misc/metastore
>
> On 7/24/17, 3:04 PM, "Carl Steinbach" <cwsteinbach@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     +1 to Vihang's suggestion. Changing the name will only cause confusion.
>
>     On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Johndee Cloudera <
> johndee@cloudera.com>
>     wrote:
>
>     > +1 Vihang, I do not really like Catalog as it could create confusion
> with
>     > the Catalog daemon from impala.
>     >
>     > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Vihang Karajgaonkar <
> vihang@cloudera.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > > Before we see a flood of name suggestions :) Why not just keep it
>     > > Metastore? Its already well-known in the community and easy to
> relate to.
>     > >
>     > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Alan Gates <alanfgates@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     > >
>     > > > In the same vein Carter and Gunther suggested Omegastore.  Pick
> your
>     > > > alphabet and whether it’s a catalog or a store I guess.
>     > > >
>     > > > Alan.
>     > > >
>     > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Sergey Shelukhin <
>     > > sergey@hortonworks.com>
>     > > > wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > > I’d like to suggest ZCatalog.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > On 17/7/11, 15:41, "Lefty Leverenz" <leftyleverenz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > >>> I'd like to suggest Riven.  (Owen O'Malley)
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >> How about "Flora"?  (Andrew Sherman)
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >Nice idea and thanks for introducing me to that book, Andrew.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >Along the same lines, how about "Honeycomb"?
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >But since the idea is to make the metastore useful for many
>     > projects,
>     > > a
>     > > > > >generic name that starts with "Meta" would be less confusing
> ...
>     > even
>     > > > > >though it breaks the tradition of Apache projects having
> quirky
>     > names.
>     > > > > >Unfortunately "Metalog" is already in use.  "Metamorph" has
> other
>     > > > > >connotations, but it's cool.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >Naming enthusiasm notwithstanding, I'm +/-0 on the idea of
> splitting
>     > > off
>     > > > > >the metastore into a new project:  -0.5 for the sake of Hive
> and
>     > +0.5
>     > > > for
>     > > > > >the greater good.  Wishy-washy, that's me.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >-- Lefty
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Sherman <
>     > > asherman@cloudera.com>
>     > > > > >wrote:
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Owen O'Malley <
>     > > > owen.omalley@gmail.com>
>     > > > > >> wrote:
>     > > > > >>
>     > > > > >> > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Chao Sun <
> sunchao@apache.org>
>     > > > wrote:
>     > > > > >> >
>     > > > > >> > > and maybe a different project name?
>     > > > > >> > >
>     > > > > >> >
>     > > > > >> > Yes, it certainly needs a new name. I'd like to
suggest
> Riven.
>     > > > > >> >
>     > > > > >> > .. Owen
>     > > > > >> >
>     > > > > >>
>     > > > > >> How about "Flora"?
>     > > > > >>
>     > > > > >> (Flora is the protagonist of The Bees by Laline Paull)
>     > > > > >>
>     > > > > >> -Andrew
>     > > > > >>
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > >
>     > >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > - JRB
>     >
>
>
>
>

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