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From Xuefu Zhang <xzh...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2014 04:05:15 GMT
Major release means more functionality, while minor releases provides
stability. Therefore, I'd think, 1.0, as a major release, should bring in
something new to the user. If it's desirable to provide more stable
release, then 0.14.1, 0.14.2, and so on are the right ones. In my opinion,
we should avoid doing anti-pattern by introducing major release like a
maintenance release and creating confusions among users.

In one word, major release is NOT equal to major confusion.

--Xuefu

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Sergey Shelukhin <sergey@hortonworks.com>
wrote:

> I think it's better to do 1.0 release off a maintenance release, since that
> is more stable. Trunk is moving fast.
> HBase uses odd release numbers for this purpose, where 0.95, 97, 99 etc.
> are dev releases and 0.96, 0.98, 1.0 etc. are public; that works well for
> baking, but since we don't have that seems like 14.0 would be a good place
> to bake. 15.0 with bunch of new bugs that we are busy introducing may not
> be as good for 1.0 IMHO...
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Brock Noland <brock@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Thejas,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your proposal!
> >
> > Hadoop did something similar renaming branches to branch-1 and
> > branch-2. At the time, although I was very much in favor of the new
> > release numbers, I thought it could have been handled better. Renaming
> > release branches ended up being very confusing for users and I had a
> > ton of conversations with users about how releases were related.
> >
> > In this situation, I feel the situation is similar, we'll release 1.0
> > which is really just the second maintainence release of the 0.14
> > branch. Thus it's 1.0 but really it's just 0.14 + some fixes. I feel
> > this will again be confusing for users. For this important change, I
> > think we should use a new release vehicle.
> >
> > Thus, I'd suggest we do the rename in trunk, soon, and then the next
> > release of Hive will be 1.0.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brock
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Thejas Nair <thejas@hortonworks.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Apache Hive is the de facto SQL query engine in the hadoop ecosystem.
> > > I believe it is also the most widely used one as well. Hive is used in
> > > production in large number of enterprises.
> > > However, this 0.x.y versioning that we have been using for Hive
> > > obscures this status of Hive.
> > >
> > > I propose creating a 1.0 release out of the 0.14 branch of Hive. We
> > > already have some bug fixes for 0.14 release that have been added to
> > > the branch and a maintenance release is due. Having it out of this
> > > maintenance branch would create a better first 1.0 version, and we
> > > would be able to do it soon. What would have been 0.15 version would
> > > then become 1.1 version .
> > >
> > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Thejas
> > >
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