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From William Markito Oliveira <william.mark...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Date Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:08:06 GMT
Thanks Bill!

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com> wrote:

> Currently the migration to Apache infra is stalled since we are waiting on
> the SGA from Twitter. Numerous attempts over the past few months have been
> made to get an update from Twitter legal regarding the submittal of the
> SGA, and no response has been received. Perhaps that hasn't been spelled
> out as clearly as it should have been in our reports. Without that we can
> not move code to Apache infra as I understand it. If anyone from Twitter
> has a status update on the SGA to share, please do.
>
> Github Issues will be used in lieu of jira. The dev list has migrated to
> Apache. The users list will migrate to Apache infra once the code is
> migrated and we are approaching an Apache release.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:31 AM, William Markito Oliveira <
> markito@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > As someone interested in the project and that offered to help mentoring
> > towards graduation from incubation, I can't see from this list any
> > discussions or decisions about on-going developments and tasks.
> >
> > I've also noticed that the project does not have Wiki [1], Jira [2] and
> the
> > code repository [3] is empty.   As per the report, the code import is
> > on-going, but are there infra tickets open to request Wiki and Jira
> ?Status
> > on those ? That would be a good way to start publicly tracking what's
> > going-on, what's planned, etc..  Any plans to migrate the website [4] as
> > well ?
> >
> > Happy to assist with some of the tasks as well.
> >
> > [1] Wiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HERON
> > [2] JIRA - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/Heron/
> > [3] Code repository -
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-heron.git
> > [4] Website - https://heron.incubator.apache.org/
> > -
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:52 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> > >
> > > I agree that it’s hard to get a handle on where things stand and how
> > > decisions are being made based on the mailing list traffic. I see the
> > > “heron-users” google group is still active, I don’t see any reason to
> > delay
> > > closing that down in favor of the user@ mailing list.
> > >
> > > Right now I don’t see the level of collaboration I would hope for, but
> I
> > > might just be missing what’s going on in slack. Regardless,
> collaboration
> > > on slack should be secondary to the mailing lists, and all decision
> > making
> > > should really be done via the mailing lists.
> > >
> > > -Taylor
> > >
> > > > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey guys, I think it would be worthwhile to provide some additional
> > > flavor
> > > > around the SGA/ICLA discussions in the report. The clear question
> from
> > > > outsiders will be "why is it taking so long" and "what other options
> > have
> > > > been pursued". The report should do its best to address these issues.
> > > >
> > > > A second thing that I think should be covered is how we're going to
> > > engage
> > > > the broader community. Looking at the dev lists, I see very little
> > > > engagement from either the active engineers or new engineers. If I
> > wanted
> > > > to get started contributing to the project, I'd struggle if trying to
> > > > interact with the mailing list. There is a bit more life on the Slack
> > > > channel but in general, development seems pretty opaque (or
> inactive).
> > > How
> > > > do we improve that? Do others agree that there is a challenge? Maybe
> we
> > > > feel like this will get in better shape once things are transitioned
> > > over?
> > > > Do we need to come up with additional ways to make development
> > > > collaborative and the community expanding? A discussion of roadmap?
> > > Weekly
> > > > synopsis of slack channel activity? Other ideas? Not necessary yet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <karthik@streaml.io
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Can we get a mentor to sign off?
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers
> > > >> /karthik
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <
> karthik@streaml.io
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks Bill.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
> > > >>>> ubator/October2017.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <
> > karthik@streaml.io>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Looks good!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <
> billgraham@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4.
Here's a
> > draft,
> > > >>>>>> please
> > > >>>>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
> > > >>>>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment
about the SGA
> vs
> > > >> ICLA
> > > >>>>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't
> necessary
> > > >> here.
> > > >>>>>> Let
> > > >>>>>> me know if you think otherwise.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> thanks,
> > > >>>>>> Bill
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ------
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Heron
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing
> engine.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move
towards
> > > graduation:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial
website
> > > >>>>>>  2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
> > > >>>>>>  3. 1st ASF release
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board
wish/need
> to
> > > be
> > > >>>>>> aware of?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>   Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on
the SGA from
> > > >> Twitter
> > > >>>>>> which has not provided an ETA.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups
and Slack
> > to
> > > >> the
> > > >>>>>> Heron Apache dev list.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  * Development has been active, despite limited progress
> migrating
> > > to
> > > >>>>>> Apache infra.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > >>>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  [x] Initial setup
> > > >>>>>>  [ ] Working towards first release
> > > >>>>>>  [ ] Community building
> > > >>>>>>  [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > >>>>>>  [ ] Other:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Date of last release:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>



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