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From Bob Kerns <...@acm.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Retire HDT
Date Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:19:15 GMT
Let me know the details, and I'll see if I can join. My calendar is even
more of a mess than usual this week, though.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Evert Lammerts <evert.lammerts@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No update yet, we had to delay our chat because of conflicting agendas. We
> should know more by Friday. If anybody wants to join just let me know and
> I'll pas on the details. Don't think this will affect the retirement vote
> though...
>
> Evert
>
> On 06:00, Tue, Nov 18, 2014 Rahul Sharma <rsharma@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Let me know if there is any update on this, I will conclude the vote
> > accordingly.
> >
> > regards
> > Rahul
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Evert Lammerts <evert@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > For whoever is interested: I'm having a Skype call with Mirko this
> Monday
> > > 4pm CET. Let me know if you'd like to join!
> > >
> > > Evert
> > >
> > > On Fri Nov 14 2014 at 9:27:40 PM Evert Lammerts <
> > evert.lammerts@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Like Bob I would have liked to do more than just monitoring the list,
> > but
> > > > clearly I haven't and that doesn't give me much legitimacy I'm
> afraid.
> > +0
> > > > from me as well.
> > > >
> > > > I've just come back to Hadoop after an absence of 18 months, and I
> see
> > > > that a development environment for Hadoop-related computing and data
> > > > warehousing tools (MapReduce, Spark [SQL|Streaming], Pig, HBase,
> Hive,
> > > etc)
> > > > and their libraries (Mahout, Giraph, MLlib and GraphX) is still
> > missing,
> > > > and that there *is* a real need for it. Any cloud provider worth
> their
> > > salt
> > > > offers a Hadoop as a platform service where you can deploy a cluster
> > > within
> > > > minutes, but there's no way to get started developing jobs right
> away.
> > > And
> > > > I see organisations struggle with this on private deployments as
> well.
> > > > Stacks like Hue and IPython Notebook and simple stepping stone nodes
> > fill
> > > > part of the gap, but I think we can do way better.
> > > >
> > > > I've just come back to this space, and this is a problem I'm
> addressing
> > > > for my current client (a bank) as well. If somebody would like to
> > discuss
> > > > tackling this together then lets set up a short call. I do have to
> say
> > > that
> > > > looking at the current Hadoop toolset, I'm no longer convinced that
> > > Eclipse
> > > > is the way to go here.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Evert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
> > > > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> CC¹ing folks from general@incubator.a.o as they can likely explain
> > > >> (am currently getting ready for a flight back from Italy to Los
> > Angeles
> > > >> and won¹t have time for a bit, Bob).
> > > >>
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > >> Chief Architect
> > > >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> > > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
> > > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> > > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Bob Kerns <rwk@acm.org>
> > > >> Reply-To: "dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org" <
> > dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 6:58 PM
> > > >> To: "dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org" <dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire HDT
> > > >>
> > > >> >As someone who has unfortunately been inactive, I'm going to
> abstain
> > > +0;
> > > >> >otherwise I'd vote -1 and try to be one of those 3 active folks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I still have hopes of doing more stuff with Hadoop and HDT in
the
> > > future,
> > > >> >but job responsibilities keep shifting in unexpected directions,
> and
> > > >> >health
> > > >> >and family don't leave me enough time to do it if not actively
> > involved
> > > >> at
> > > >> >work.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >If retired, will this list remain active? Otherwise, it might
be
> hard
> > > to
> > > >> >gather the 3 active people...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I think there's significant needs that are going unmet that we
> could
> > be
> > > >> >addressing, if people (myself included) had the time to devote
to
> it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I've not stopped monitoring the list, and I do hope to contribute
> in
> > > the
> > > >> >future. If it is retired, what will be the mechanics for
> contributing
> > > new
> > > >> >code? Would it have to be brought out of retirement before that
> could
> > > >> >happen via Apache? (Obviously, a fork on GitHub would be an option,
> > but
> > > >> >that might detract from a path back to active Apache involvement).
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Rahul Sharma <
> rsharma@apache.org
> > >
> > > >> >>wrote:
> > > >> >> > Hi all,
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Based on the discussion happened on the mailing list
[1] ,I'd
> > like
> > > to
> > > >> >> call
> > > >> >> > a VOTE to retire[2] Apache HDT from  Apache Incubator.
It
> > appears i
> > > >> >>that
> > > >> >> > the project has lost community interest with almost
no activity
> > on
> > > >> >> mailing
> > > >> >> > lists.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours and passes
on
> > > achieving
> > > >> a
> > > >> >> > consensus.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >  +1 [ ] Yes, I am in favor of retiring HDT from the
Apache
> > > Incubator.
> > > >> >> >  +0 [ ]
> > > >> >> >  -1 [ ] No, I am not in favor of retiring HDT because...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> + 1 (binding).
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks for all your efforts Rahul!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I've also appreciated Mirko's comment, but I must say that
> > > >> >> retirement is NOT a death sentence. The code still will be
> > > >> >> available and if least 3 active folks were to show up the
> > > >> >> project can easily be reinstated.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >> Roman.
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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