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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: Access & such
Date Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:48:27 GMT
+1 from me, makes sense.

Cheers,
Chris

On 3/3/13 5:44 PM, "Bob Kerns" <rwk@acm.org> wrote:

>Understood. This is a hosted service they're providing to a wide range of
>open-source projects, including many at Apache.
>
>Of course, it's in their interest as well.
>
>If you think Apache would be interested in hosting it themselves, we could
>pursue that -- I bet they'd provide the license -- but I don't see a
>reason
>to turn down the free hosting!
>
>But I wasn't promoting it; my point is that it helps promote us, because
>it
>makes the code show up in search engines better, and generally be more
>visible.
>
>
>On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Thanks, OK got it. At the same time we have to be mindful to promote
>> things that are here at Apache, and not elsewhere at least while working
>> on this project. If there are tools that belong here, you may consider
>> requesting of infra@ -- however note that infra's likely response will
>>be
>> "why doesn't ViewVC satisfy this?" and/or if you are willing to help
>>them
>> set it up, etc., etc.
>>
>> That said, what you proposed sounds OK by me, with the above things to
>> keep in mind.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2/25/13 3:00 PM, "Bob Kerns" <rwk@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>> >When I say "our repository hosted on their fisheye instance", I'm
>> >referring
>> >not to moving the home of the git repository, but adding a fisheye
>>*view*
>> >of *our* git repository. Think of it as viewcvs on radioactive spider
>> >venom.
>> >
>> >They already are set up to do this for the SVN-based repositories. It's
>> >something they do for free for a variety of open-source projects.
>> >fisheye6.atlassian.com is dedicated to Apache. For example, Mahout is
>> >visible here: https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/browse/mahout
>> >
>> >I'm BobKerns on moinmoin, and Bob Kerns on Confluence (unless you hit
>>some
>> >part of their admin UI that works with raw usernames, in which case,
>>try
>> >'rwk').
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
>> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Bob,
>> >>
>> >> On 2/25/13 12:28 AM, "Bob Kerns" <rwk@acm.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I've just put some effort into getting all my Apache-things in
>>order,
>> >>and
>> >> >noticed a few gaps:
>> >> >
>> >> >1) I don't seem to have write access to the Wiki. I was going to
>>add a
>> >> >link
>> >> >to the Jira site for HDT, but since I didn't have access, I added a
>> >>Jira
>> >> >issue to add the link. :)
>> >>
>> >> I just created my own account on the wiki, so I don't have admin
>>privs
>> >>:)
>> >>
>> >> If someone doesn't have those on this list, my suggestion would be to
>> >>file
>> >> an INFRA ticket at:
>> >>
>> >> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>> >>
>> >> Requesting Wiki write privs. Another option if you are IRC savvy is
>>to
>> >>log
>> >> on
>> >> to #asfinfra on irc.freenode.net and ask one of the folks there to
>> grant
>> >> the
>> >> privs in real time.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >2) I don't seem to be a member of the Jira project? I can't assign
>> >>myself
>> >> >tasks...
>> >>
>> >> I'm also not an admin in JIRA, so we'll need to get privs to do that.
>> >>Adam
>> >> B.
>> >> probably is a JIRA admin for HDT. Adam?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I have some thoughts long-term vision I was thinking about writing
>>up
>> >>on a
>> >> >wiki page. User-experience-oriented things like having a single
>>update
>> >> >site
>> >> >for all Hadoop-family Eclipse tools (even if they are provided by
>>the
>> >> >individual projects -- I'm not trying to get grandiose here),
>> >> >configuration, etc. Sort of an attempt to look like what a seamless
>> >> >experience would be like from a user perspective.
>> >>
>> >> +1 you should have write access to the wiki and let's get it fixed
>>ASAP.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >We'll need some way to distinguish between our public documentation,
>> >>and
>> >> >our internal musings and discussions, not to be confused with
>> >> >documentation. Perhaps this would be easier with the Confluence
>>wiki?
>> >>
>> >> I'm a fan of Confluence over MoinMoin, but since I didn't plan on
>> >>writing
>> >> a
>> >> bunch of documentation on HDT, I didn't want to let my prefs
>>influence
>> >> those
>> >> over the folks actually doing the work.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >It looks to me like we don't have Fisheye going for this project
>> >>because
>> >> >we're git-only? Should I approach Atlassian about hosting our
>> >>repository
>> >> >on
>> >> >their Fisheye instance?
>> >>
>> >> The ASF HDT project code bits needs to be hosted on ASF infra, so we
>> >>can't
>> >> do that.
>> >> Infra provides continuous integration (http://ci.apache.org/) as well
>> as
>> >> ViewVC
>> >> repository browsing (http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/) so hopefully that
>> >>will
>> >> suffice.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>


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