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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: initial plugin split done
Date Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:41:04 GMT
Sounds great, Adam. +1 to releasing early, and often.

We have a good opportunity here to release even a developer focused
release, and then improve docs with more releases that we do.

Cheers,
Chris

On 2/15/13 7:54 PM, "Adam Berry" <adamb@apache.org> wrote:

>On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hey Adam,
>>
>> Great work! Do you think it's now time for a first release? Even if it's
>> not fully functional, and even if it doesn't support everything you
>> mention in paragraph #2 below, it will be a great incremental milestone.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On 2/11/13 8:29 PM, "Adam Berry" <adamb@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Hey guys,
>> >
>> >So first, let me say thanks for the patience as I worked on this.
>> >
>> >I've split up the original single plugin into a few logical units as we
>> >discussed before. I've thrown up the beginnings of a wiki page,
>> >http://wiki.apache.org/hdt/HDTGettingStarted with the beginnings of how
>> to
>> >grab this and work with it. The maven/tycho build support still needs
>>to
>> >go
>> >in, but I should be able to get to that this week.
>> >
>> >So now we are ready to start attacking multi hadoop version support! We
>> >need multi version clients for launching jobs on hadoop clusters, also
>>for
>> >interacting with hdfs on the same clusters, those will need the
>>connectors
>> >that we discussed before. The other spot is in the jars that get that
>> >added
>> >to the classpath for MapReduce projects.
>> >
>> >Although the plugins are logically split, some of the classes in them
>>need
>> >some more work to better split the work between core and ui, so keeping
>> >refactoring in mind as would be good I think. For now, the Hadoop
>>imports
>> >are satisfied using the org.apache.hadoop.eclipse plugin, which bundles
>> >Hadoop 1.0.4.
>> >
>> >I've added some JIRAs as trackers for this feature work, so feel free
>>to
>> >jump in to the source and chime in!
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Adam
>>
>> Hey guys,
>
>sorry for the delay in responding, I was struck down by the flu.
>
>So I'm really not sure here, so comments and thoughts are more than
>welcome.
>
>We can probably make the current set of tools work with 1.0 without too
>much trouble, but we would also need some tests and documentation before
>release, not necessarily exhaustive, but at least something. Pursuing a
>release quickly would likely help to drive interest and momentum for the
>tools.
>
>I think I'm leaning in favor of doing that, gets us used to doing apache
>releases, and the other pieces of infrastructure, and would let us get
>visible within the hadoop community sooner.
>
>I believe its still important to start work on the multi version support
>as
>soon as possible, but I think we can do that in parallel to the release of
>some tools that support the 1.0 line.
>
>So let me know what you guys think, and we'll go from there.
>
>Cheers,
>Adam


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