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From "Jesper Sahner" <jespersah...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: Basic http-question
Date Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:24:35 GMT
Hi Chris,

Thanx for your answer.

>From: Christopher L Merrill <chris@webperformance.com>
>Reply-To: "HttpClient User Discussion" <httpclient-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>To: HttpClient User Discussion <httpclient-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: Basic http-question
>Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:26:01 -0500
>Jesper Sahner wrote:
>>My question is if it is possible - within the "http-framework" - to ask 
>>the server to return an answer when it has the answer instead of 
>>periodically asking for an answer which is basically waste of time.
>HTTP is inherently a request/response protocol.  You could issue a
>request and have server wait to respond until the desired data is 
>But the socket would eventually timeout and you'd have to re-issue the
>request.  Additionally, it needlessly ties up resources on the server.
I wonder how e.g. a mail-system like Hotmail works. If you are logged in you 
get a pop-up message every time a new message is received. Is that pop-up 
message the result of your request to the mail-server (guess not) or the 
mail-server just telling you that a new message is sent.

I wonder if something similar is possible with HTTP: You make an initial 
request telling the server to give you a notice every time a certain event 
occurs without making any further requests?

A solution like this would be much more effective that repeatedly requesting 
for new events that hasn't occured.

But as I read your answer, HTTP is a request/response protocol, so this is 
not possible.

>>By way of comparison how do Flash-driven websites which are dynamically 
>>updated (e.g. stock tickers) work in this context?
>At least some of them are polling the server with requests every N seconds.
>Some can open raw sockets to the server, but these methods have trouble
>getting through firewalls.
>Chris Merrill                  |  http://www.webperformance.com
>Web Performance Inc.
>Website Load Testing and Stress Testing Software
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