Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hc-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 39737 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2007 14:20:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Dec 2007 14:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 39917 invoked by uid 500); 20 Dec 2007 14:20:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hc-dev-archive@hc.apache.org Received: (qmail 39887 invoked by uid 500); 20 Dec 2007 14:20:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@hc.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "HttpComponents Project" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@hc.apache.org Received: (qmail 39872 invoked by uid 99); 20 Dec 2007 14:20:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:20:10 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of sebbaz@gmail.com designates 72.14.220.158 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.220.158] (HELO fg-out-1718.google.com) (72.14.220.158) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:19:49 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so598252fga.32 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:19:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=73rwiIrU5/WRqTs3T4bWn2IsmeoD1k+wWmmMGkZVZQ8=; b=GNcLnkdaq6tKIj8thDn45Or5tITsewfRVzhQROOoDXRhV4LlGCAF/WW7GwAqsrGGFIRytRC1S2SqRYaMT7xjHR21/tOzs7L9oQBhHnx0TlLoPb31y8wDFrZiuwMizu1pvX9QssF0E+dyvZ2GdE47oLxYjnglmkbVGtx5Vwv5BHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MUNXNKj5S5N9Gy9bb+v4MtVjXvCo4x+5nC8WB9Qgf53UpzJXtHMI1yud95tJqx+FYKCcZH26xWsyHemlMW8EFI2MLD0oHqilH+AEleYmmeRK5Ef2A6D1yTeYh+YVzY1dTd6dnw/s+qdzEUwAN6BqqLgJB/zsVvf5RcWHeC8LWp4= Received: by 10.86.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr28873fgb.14.1198160391544; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.61.10 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:19:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <25aac9fc0712200619h2377aa58raa8e7b3f3e3a1720@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:19:51 +0000 From: sebb To: "HttpComponents Project" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] future web site structure In-Reply-To: <476A767E.30409@dubioso.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4762AB4B.6080807@dubioso.net> <1198083359.7175.23.camel@okhost> <476A2815.3060307@dubioso.net> <1198157312.23673.15.camel@okhost> <476A767E.30409@dubioso.net> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 20/12/2007, Roland Weber wrote: > Hi Oleg, > > >> I start to get the feeling that Maven is a black hole that > >> drags everything into it. > > > > Maven is VERY invasive. It either its way or the highway. However, it > > does help to enforce uniform release structure and process, which is, in > > my opinion, a good thing. > > I'm fine with Maven as a _release_ build tool. I'm less fine > with Maven as a site generation tool. I see the point as long > as the site is published with the release, as is the case for > commons-httpclient with it's extensive documentation. That's > why I suggested to use Maven for the parts of the site that > are associated with a component and usually updated only after > a release, and use something else for the "main" site that > could see intermediate updates. But even that won't work if > we want to add documentation to a component and publish that > without waiting for the next release. > > I just noticed that the HttpComponents site only uses Maven > report plugins that are tied to the source code, which is > good. The 3.1 site also generates reports from SVN, which > makes little sense unless the site is updated on a regular > basis. > Would you mind me removing the "Change Log", "Developer Activity" > and "File Activity" reports from the old site? Some others also > make little sense, given the current change frequency in the > 3.1 codebase: "JavaDoc Report", "JavaDoc Warnings Report", and > "Task List". But maybe you are using these locally when coding? > > > Roland, Sebastian > > > > Feel free to explore alternatives. I will happily step aside for a > > while. > > I don't have a short-term alternative that supports a friendly > wiki-like text markup. I'm beginning to think that it isn't > such a bad idea to have a site published from a Confluence Wiki > though. > Go ahead with Maven site building. We can consider alternatives > next year, when the dust has settled. I'll find enough to do to > keep me occupied. +1, ditto. > cheers, > Roland > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@hc.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@hc.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@hc.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@hc.apache.org