Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-httpcomponents-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47625 invoked from network); 23 May 2007 19:39:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 May 2007 19:39:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 58105 invoked by uid 500); 23 May 2007 19:39:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-httpcomponents-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 58084 invoked by uid 500); 23 May 2007 19:39:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact httpcomponents-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "HttpComponents Project" Delivered-To: mailing list httpcomponents-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 58075 invoked by uid 99); 23 May 2007 19:39:56 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:56 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [212.227.126.174] (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.126.174) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:47 -0700 Received: from [85.180.36.246] (helo=[85.180.36.246]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1Hqwg342Jy-0006DQ; Wed, 23 May 2007 21:39:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4654998D.5060404@dubioso.net> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:44:13 +0200 From: Roland Weber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070319 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HttpComponents Project Subject: Re: [HttpComponents] Going TLP References: <1179922484.5734.52.camel@okhost> In-Reply-To: <1179922484.5734.52.camel@okhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+X/oGWk+IWBWeKq5NmlLCtCH9zg1v6Wz1PUed 0mmAEE0RVtLtcPmRtbU8m3XCffsdNCMwUW36hTrYYsGUKMpRIM g1gypUtTYWc4I2CKlv62tNv0upEpto3 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Oleg and all, the TLP proposal template is in the committers-only section of SVN: https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt While the discussion about Jakarta vs. Commons may wage on for weeks or months, it is indeed obvious that there is no point in sitting it out. Even keeping up with the discussion takes hours. I think it will be another year or so until we really know where HttpComponents are heading. NIO has attracted new folks, if Client 4.0 does the same it makes sense to be TLP. I had hoped to stay under the Jakarta umbrella until this is clear. Moving to WS until we know for sure means double work if we go TLP. So it's a bet on the future. I can't find the mail anymore, but I dimly remember that somebody (Henri? Martin?) wrote that going TLP is really not much more effort than preparing the proposal, get a vote passed, and then start writing your board reports. Everything else is decided by the new PMC afterwards. There will be some organizational effort of course, like setting up new permissions and a private@ mailing list. Making the decision based on the number of supporters sounds like a good idea. I would also feel better if there is at least one ASF member on board. I will join the new project as committer, but not on the PMC. cheers, Roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: httpcomponents-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: httpcomponents-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org