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From Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?
Date Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:29:51 GMT
Otis, et al
There are several things that in my view make HttpClient not yet ready
for a full-blown TLP status:

* Please correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that TLPs were
supposed to support multiple platforms, hence their top level status.
Whereas I can certainly imagine HttpClient implemented in straight C or
C++ (or any other language), I just do not think we'll have enough
resources to actively develop anything but a Java version in the
foreseeable future
* I can hardly think of any subproject within HttpClient project.
Ability to host sub-project within a project is one of the primary
criteria for promoting a project to the top level. I do not think we
qualify
* As useful and feature rich HttpClient has become, let's face it, it's
not exactly a masterpiece of design elegancy. Being a TLP would make
HttpClient de facto Apache's official HTTP client. Frankly, I do not
think HttpClient in its present form deserves it. There's still lots to
be done before it possibly could.

There are different ways of seeing things, and I certainly can be wrong
here, but I do think HttpClient should stay within Jakarta for the
release 3.0 and 4.0

Oleg




On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 15:46, otisg wrote:
> I am a HttpClient user and a Lucene committer.
> I don't see any problems in HttpClient moving out of Commons.
> However, before you waste time doing that, talk to people
> involved in moving projects from Jakarta and making them Top
> Level Projects (TLP).  Ant, Log4j, etc. have made this move, so
> you may want to skip the 'Commons -> Jakarta' move and just do
> the 'Commons -> TLP' move.
> 
> Either of the two moves would bring HttpClient more visibility,
> and I think HttpClient needs and deserves it.
> 
> Otis Gospodnetic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ---- On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Michael Becke (becke@u.washington.edu)
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > There has been some discussion lately of promoting HttpClient
> out of 
> > commons, making it a regular Jakarta project.  Before any such
> move is 
> > made we would need to come to a consensus, and vote, within
> the 
> > HttpClient community.  At this point I would like to encourage
> everyone 
> > to put in their 2 cents.  What does everyone think?
> > 
> > In particular I would like to hear from all the regular
> committers, 
> > contributors, and users.  How do you think this move would
> effect 
> > HttpClient's visibility, community, and organization?
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> >
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