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From Jeffrey Dever <jsde...@sympatico.ca>
Subject Re: bugzilla and commons-httpclient-dev
Date Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:50:26 GMT
There were *many* hassles when the new commons-httpclient-dev list was 
created (bad initial choice of name, many people to talk to, only 
partial seperation, resistance of splitting the list, moderator not set 
correctly, no bugzilla user, new bugzilla user spelt wrong, bugzilla 
user not subscribed, no archiving on apache ...).  

I was unsure of the process (and still am!) and who to talk to.  It was 
only recently that a commons-httpclient-dev user was created in bugzilla 
(can't do it without admin privledges) and apparently we can't change 
the default owner of httpclient bugs because that can only be configured 
one level higher, at commons.  (I have some admin rights for bugzilla 
through the web interface, but not much)

The much touted replacement for bugzilla, scarab, offers finer grained 
control but AFIK it is still under testing.  

I'd say that Oleg did right in taking ownership of a bug and assigning 
it to himself.  Thats good organizational practice so it is clear who 
owns/is working on what.  I in addition to that step, when someone is 
taking ownership of a bug, they should add 
commons-httpclient-dev@jakarta.apache.org as one of the entries in the 
CC field so that we are all notified.

The problem at the moment is that any bugzilla messages sent automaticly 
to the httpclient list is pushed to me first (as the moderator of the 
httpclient list) as bugzilla@apache.org is not subscribed.  I am working 
on correcting this at the moment.  //TODO: At some point I will sort 
through all the bugs again and do whatever to clean them up as much as 

Incidentialy, when I requested that cvs messages for httpclient be sent 
to the httpclient list, I was told that it would not be easy to do that 
and I should just filter on the commons-cvs list instead.

If anyone has any other/better ideas about all of this, please let me know.


Joerg Heinicke wrote:

> No, I meant, why not setting commons-httpclient-dev@jakarta.apache.org 
> as default owner of new httpclient bugs. So you would not need to send 
> those information mails, if you change something. And when assigning a 
> bug to yourself, you can set CC to 
> commons-httpclient-dev@jakarta.apache.org.
> Regards,
> Joerg
> Kalnichevski, Oleg wrote:
>> Joerg, Did I junk-mail commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org by mistake or
>> something while working Bugzilla bug entries? If so, I apologize for
>> that. I was not aware I could control distribution of notification
>> e-mail messages Oleg
>> -----Original Message----- From: Joerg Heinicke
>> [mailto:joerg.heinicke@gmx.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 17:53 
>> To: Commons HttpClient Project Subject: Re: Bug #10797 marked as
>> resolved
>> Why don't you change the default email address for httpclient from 
>> commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org to
>> commons-httpclient-dev@jakarta.apache.org?
>> Regards,
>> Joerg
>> Kalnichevski, Oleg wrote:
>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10797
>>> I am currently browsing through the list of open bugs. I have
>>> assigned a few to myself. I have also taken liberty of marking this
>>> one as resolved
>>> Oleg
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