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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 18:41:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was (Re:
 [DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client)
From: Stack <stack@duboce.net>
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I like your proposed text Andrew.
St.Ack

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org> wrote:

> It looks like the discussion is settling down and we have a consensus on
> the course of action of a three month temporary ban from the project
> mailing lists. If you feel that is not correct please say so, otherwise on
> Monday the PMC will begin that process.
>
> Going forward I think we should have a documented policy. We've never
> needed this before but now that has changed. Below is a strawman for your
> kind  consideration. I will file a JIRA with a site update proposal next
> week if someone doesn't beat me to it.
>
> >>>
>
> We expect participants in discussions on the HBase project mailing lists,
> IRC channels, and JIRA issues to abide by the Apache Software Foundation's
> Code of Conduct (http://apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html).
>
> If you feel there had been a violation of this code, please point out your
> concerns publicly in a friendly and matter of fact manner.
> Nonverbal communication is prone to misinterpretation and misunderstanding.
> Everyone has bad days and sometimes says things they regret later. Someone
> else's communication style may clash with yours, but the difference can be
> amicably resolved. After pointing out your concerns please be generous upon
> receiving an apology.
>
> Should there be repeated instances of code of conduct violations, or if
> there is an obvious and severe violation, the HBase PMC may become
> involved. When this happens the PMC will openly discuss the matter, most
> likely on the dev@hbase mailing list, and will consider taking the
> following actions, in order, if there is a continuing problem with an
> individual:
>
> 1. A friendly off-list warning;
>
> 2. A friendly public warning, if the communication at issue was on list,
> otherwise another off-list warning;
>
> 3. A three month suspension from the public mailing lists and possible
> operator action in the IRC channels.
>
> 4. A permanent ban from the public mailing lists, IRC channels, and project
> JIRA.
>
> For flagrant violations requiring a firm response the PMC may opt to skip
> early steps. No action will be taken before public discussion leading
> to consensus or a successful majority vote.
>
> <<<
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2015, Sean Busbey <busbey@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Due to an off list request, let me clarify my previous email. Apologies
> if
> > this is overly detailed, but I'm presuming folks on user@ don't often
> deal
> > with ASF mechanics.
> >
> > For those on user@hbase, Andrew asked on a sub-thread that mistakenly
> went
> > only to dev@hbase if those advocating for moderating Michael S's email
> > would we would vote against a 3 month ban if Andrew called a vote. My
> > response copied user@hbase back in and that's why you may have a gap in
> > messages.
> >
> > In ASF terminology, votes are one of
> >
> > * <0 against or a veto depending on what kind of vote has been called,
> > usually "-1"
> > * 0 either neutral or too conflicted to state a for/against preference,
> > usually has some concerns attached
> > * >0 in favor, usually "+1"
> >
> > I precisely said "I would not vote -1" because I would not take a stance
> > that might cause the vote to fail, but I would not vote in favor. I very
> > likely would vote "-0 I think moderating his messages will suffice, but
> > acknowledge the community does not want that."
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Sean Busbey <busbey@cloudera.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > I would not vote -1 on a 3 month ban. It doesn't look like we have
> > > consensus around moderating messages.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> For those who are advocating moderation, would you be opposed if I
> > propose
> > >> a 3 month ban for a vote? If you are not opposed, then we should be
> able
> > >> to
> > >> achieve consensus here without needing a vote to take place.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Sean
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>    - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>

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