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Subject: Re: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
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To: user@hbase.apache.org

So how do you handle isolation?=20
Dirty reads?=20

The point is that you can have scenarios where data exists yet is =
missing from other queries.=20

On Jun 11, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Tapper, Gunnar <gunnar.tapper@hp.com> =
wrote:

> Trafodion is a bit more than a transaction engine: it's a full-fledge =
SQL implementation on top of HBase.
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Gunnar
>=20
> The person that says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person =
doing it.
>=20
> Download a free version of HPDSM, a unified big-data administration =
tool for Vertica and Hadoop at: http://www.vertica.com/marketplace
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Yu [mailto:yuzhihong@gmail.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:48 PM
> To: user@hbase.apache.org
> Subject: Re: =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: White papers/Solution implemented to =
use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>=20
> One more transaction engine: trafodion
>=20
> See public wiki at http://wiki.trafodion.org
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>=20
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Ted Yu <yuzhihong@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> To my understanding, 0.98.3 would be the next stable release.
>>=20
>> Supporting 0.98 in Haeinsa would give more users a chance to try it =
out.
>>=20
>> Cheers
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, James Lee <roth2520@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Ted Yu:
>>> Thank you for the notice.
>>>=20
>>> I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
>>> I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than=20=

>>> upgrading of our cluster.
>>> There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now, but=20=

>>> supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
>>> It would not be too late.
>>>=20
>>> Sincerely,
>>> James
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yuzhihong@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> James:
>>>> Nice to hear from you.
>>>>=20
>>>> I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase=20
>>>> version of 0.94.3.
>>>> Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
>>>>=20
>>>> 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
>>>>=20
>>>> Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <roth2520@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
>>>>> One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of=20
>>>>> multi-row transaction.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of =
HBase.
>>>>> It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
>>>>> https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>>>>>=20
>>>>> There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
>>>>> It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase,=20
>>>>> developed by XiaoMi developers.
>>>>> https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> James.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <mlortiz@uci.cu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are=20
>>>>>> several use-cases for this combination.
>>>>>> http://hbasecon.com
>>>>>> You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile=20
>>>>>> using
>>> the
>>>>>> hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
>>>>>> One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the
>>> presentation
>>>>>> called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 09/06/14 05:03, =E8=B0=A2=E8=89=AF wrote:
>>>>>>> borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [
>>> ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2014=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=889=E6=97=
=A5 13:27
>>>>>>> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: user@hive.apache.org; =
user@hbase.apache.org
>>>>>>> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: White papers/Solution implemented to use =
HIVE/HBASE as=20
>>>>>>> OLTP
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Request your help in providing link to the White=20
>>>>>>> papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Rams
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz>=20
>>>>>> (@marcosluis2186
>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
>>>>>> http://about.me/marcosortiz
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio=20
>>>>>> al 11
>>> de
>>>>>> julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> --
>>>>> *=EC=9D=B4 =EC=A0=95 =ED=96=89 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> *=EC=9D=B4 =EC=A0=95 =ED=96=89 / James Lee*
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
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