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From Steve Loughran <ste...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: Running HBase on Yarn … HoYa ?
Date Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:21:28 GMT
Right now you are going to have to run HBase outside YARN, and on those
nodes with HBase configure YARN to offer less capacity -CPU and RAM- than
your (static) HBase demands will be.


The Hoya stuff is still immature -which currently offers the advantage that
I can make big changes to bits of the code and its persistent json
specifications without worrying about breaking things. It's also been
tracking the latest versions of Hadoop 2.1; which itself is in the final
stages of being ready for production.

What it is working towards is
 -being able to specify what you want in terms of an Hbase cluster:
version, node resources to request off YARN, have Hoya bring up the
cluster, and keep that cluster up
 -having YARN explicitly support long-lived services (see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-896 ; other applications like
Samza share these needs)

There's another problem one that is common to HBase & YARN or
HBase-on-YARN, which is IO contention. We can use YARN's cgroup scheduling
to restrict the CPU and RAM load that a YARN container can use -so stop MR
jobs to cause HBase to swap out or be overloaded CPU-wise. What that
doesn't address is disk IO bandwidth, because that goes through the HDFS
datanodes -and that is shared across all processes as well as remote ones.

Apart from that, some slides are up

http://www.slideshare.net/steve_l/2013-0826hoyaforcodereview
and the code is online
https://github.com/hortonworks/hoya

I'd welcome more participation in this,

-steve






>
> From: Michael Segel <michael_segel@hotmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:07 AM
> Subject: Running HBase on Yarn … HoYa ?
> To: "user@hbase.apache.org" <user@hbase.apache.org>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to post this to the YARN Google Groups as well since this
> problem intersects across both efforts…
>
> So, running HBase on Yarn…
>
> While its possible to bring up a Yarn cluster and manually start HBase
> outside of Yarn, it seems that this would end up causing some massive
> issues…
>
> It seems that Yarn needs to know about all of the resources on Hadoop
> cluster so that it can allocate resources. Running anything outside of Yarn
> on the cluster, may cause Yarn to oversubscribe resources.
>
> Is anyone seriously playing with Yarn and HBase?
>
> HOYA seems not fully baked and I am making a lot of assumptions about Yarn
> and HBase on Yarn.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Mike
>
>
>

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