Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 69691 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2011 19:45:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2011 19:45:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 59204 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2011 19:45:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-user-archive@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 59133 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2011 19:45:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@hbase.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 59125 invoked by uid 99); 13 Apr 2011 19:45:11 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:45:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ryanobjc@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.169] (HELO mail-pv0-f169.google.com) (74.125.83.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:45:04 +0000 Received: by pvg4 with SMTP id 4so490724pvg.14 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+eb1yG81PeZ7OZ/vDcGNpUp1vE86WR/BKL3tQZQCFfk=; b=xvV5VuIf6hIFQzEdJbEx9Jv7Z60IFxfS6FCYtr6fncYi8KOrF5hTNyZcsRqxtARKCl tilgN/BRcHoMtafAcbt91fV2h5Fy+yyIiIcfQ4bu1NsaSM0mJMZo46Vbf3eBNjbt9eWV 8IRHbStiCW88fhLe+uMIL6u01VXc0zItGZX5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ald/RQQN37ACTHsvj5jBU2E72Tp8RGOwdk6Gd9HvHltDr3S7AcFpqR/vzPQ7I6QscZ BOKNJnTWueW/4UGuCmzdk0Pph7QmTJW6h9nVbmwdWnRsLUNlCiDaTpZgATTolQ352Zpg fR+9ClUDadmr6WUpI0HwE6iKY3zQzwv+ME89M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.132.20 with SMTP id f20mr7639697wfd.360.1302723882720; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.42.193 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <67680900F79B1D4F99C844EE386FC595282393698D@EX2K7VS03.4emm.local> References: <67680900F79B1D4F99C844EE386FC5952823936928@EX2K7VS03.4emm.local> <187750.30024.qm@web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <67680900F79B1D4F99C844EE386FC595282393698D@EX2K7VS03.4emm.local> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:44:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HBase is not ready for Primetime From: Ryan Rawson To: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: Doug Meil , "apurtell@apache.org" , Robert Gonzalez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org To bring it back to the original point and a high level view, the fact is that HBase is not Oracle, nor MySQL. It doesnt have multiple decades, and futhermore distributed systems are inherently more difficult (more failure cases) than single node DBs. Having said that, the grass is certainly not greener on the other side. I hear horror stories about every other nosqly technology out there. Without naming names, the bottom line is all new technologies need more care and feeding than your 30 year database server (with a 30 year old architecture to match btw). I know for a fact that multiple sites run huge HBase clusters without employing committers, so that fact lets me sleep at night. Bugs get fixed, progress moves on. HBase is in a great place where every new release is better and offers something more than the previous, so I must urge everyone to upgrade. The .89 to 0.90 is a fairly trivial upgrade as well and rollbackable. Thanks for persistence.