Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hbase-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 92987 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2010 20:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 20:48:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 97343 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2010 20:47:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-hbase-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 97297 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2010 20:47:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hbase-user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 97289 invoked by uid 99); 13 Mar 2010 20:47:54 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:47:54 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [76.13.13.87] (HELO n3d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com) (76.13.13.87) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:47:45 +0000 Received: from [74.6.228.95] by n3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2010 20:47:23 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.168] by t2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2010 20:47:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp109.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2010 20:47:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 919637.14704.bm@omp109.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 82834 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2010 20:47:23 -0000 Message-ID: <789388.82145.qm@web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iVdiQ44VM1kBwWKd8XSZ43cMcRREgNfQNeheQIK0QsXB8iojeJ3HsJIUdxVFdp7jmT24KEHWcSEA1j8ZU9cdHwvLTYho1.zNjevrVJ.JUvj4pX2QVLYoj36vri9W4BkADXQHaYYItfHTHOPomeI8GlAvgiz94_knqPb.vxvxYkLgWyDS_rHibvVuAAqb4Jp8lBgG6M4i4aVHNnnIY7mS0i2oOXGn.mNNDRA91MXu0zpWtWphmH44rLU46eGGH_aynA63rYVIh7sfFrc6Pm_Aj4zwaJX.gzFkB1n9HbxZAOjN0fY54Y3Yh6PGDEzdDAEG0MjnxnnQrLWAXRTX2o8x9dVFjZsdI47vbftlXSu46NK3L0GwoBdu5NzX Received: from [69.224.51.68] by web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:47:23 PST X-RocketYMMF: apurtell X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <10fa01cac16c$f189d050$d49d70f0$@com> <111401cac16e$c4d0ebf0$4e72c3d0$@com> <551353.89723.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <500e4a1e1003130436g2c361850s7e33a8078072b993@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Purtell Subject: Re: on Hadoop reliability wrt. EC2 (was: Re: [databasepro-48] HUG9) To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hmm... I know you only used leeware as an example Edward. :-) I'd caution you have to be careful. Obviously only a subset of low cost options are suitable and you need to know what you are doing. Given this example, leeware servers would be possibly useful but underperforming for plain MapReduce, due to fast Ethernet only interconnect between the servers and hardly any disk, but underperforming and problematic for HBase. Connections between servers in a HBase cluster should be GigE in my experience, unless you're planning to serve everything out of RAM (block cache). In that regard, the memory configuration of leeware servers is not sufficient. Additionally there is not enough RAM to support HBase and map reduce tasks on the same servers. There's hardly any disk to back a table of any size which justifies use of HBase in the first place. There are other managed hosting providers that can do GigE interconnect and useful disk configurations, but they cost more obviously. - Andy ----- Original Message ---- > From: Edward Capriolo > To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org > Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 8:41:37 AM > Subject: Re: on Hadoop reliability wrt. EC2 (was: Re: [databasepro-48] HUG9) [...] > I have not used EC2 extensively but some of the things you can do are very > impressive in terms of spin up. As a sys-admin and a guy who worked at a > data center, I would suggest to shop around. Do not fall in love with EC2 > because its hip. I you are short on cash. You can get 6 dedicated services > for $375.00 USD Per Month >http://www.leeware.com/services.html. (I use leeware for some hosting) > That is a big difference 6 servers for 375 vs 1 VM for $500.