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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:54:18 +0100
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Subject: Re: Why windows support is critical
From: Tim Robertson <timrobertson100@gmail.com>
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For 2) if you look at slides 15,16,17 of
http://www.slideshare.net/ghelmling/hbase-at-meetup you can see there
are some nice higher level APIs popping up for HBase that help you
deal with Objects and not Byte[].  That is open source and can be
pulled from http://github.com/ghelmling/meetup.beeno which might be of
interest.  There are others floating around as well that might be
worth checking out.

Isn't Windows used only for .Net development? (;
I'd have thought that if a project is of sufficient size to consider
HBase, then it is big enough that people would set up appropriate dev
environments (Mac, Linux, or windows and use EC2 or something as the
dev/test cluster).


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Ravi <ravikapoor101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I understand that and I agree it cannot be used on windows in production.
> However
>
> 1. I am talking about windows as a development environment.
> 2. I am talking about ease of use of API provided
>
> These are two critical needs of any web application developer. Don't you
> think?
>
> Ravi
>
>
> On 2/28/2010 11:09 AM, Jeff Zhang wrote:
>>
>> But HBase is build upon hadoop which is not supposed to run on windows a=
s
>> production environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Ravi<ravikapoor101@gmail.com> =A0wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I want to bring up a critical issue i.e. windows support. Today I decid=
ed
>>> to move away from hbase to mongoDB and I want to explain why and I hope
>>> this
>>> will help the hbase team understand needs of users like me and ultimate=
ly
>>> a
>>> better product.
>>>
>>> I am an entrepreneur working on a web application. I do not have big
>>> money
>>> or big team. So while I am trying to move a mountain, I want the path o=
f
>>> least resistance and want a DB that does not pose additional challenges=
.
>>>
>>> Ultimately I found hbase to be more difficult to install and API to be
>>> difficult to use on my windows machine (where I am doing the
>>> development).
>>> After struggling for a few days, I realize that I am losing steam and I
>>> better choose a path of least resistance and I am switching to mongoDB.
>>>
>>> I do think that hbase is currently ahead. Mongo DB is missing a few
>>> critical features for a large website. However if I lose steam, there
>>> wouldnt be a website.
>>>
>>> So I request the hbase team to think if users like me and windows
>>> development environment is important enough for the team. A one click
>>> install on windows and mongoDB like driver would go a long way to compe=
te
>>> with other DBs.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps
>>> Ravi
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>