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From "Feng Honghua (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (HBASE-10296) Replace ZK with a consensus lib(paxos,zab or raft) running within master processes to provide better master failover performance and state consistency
Date Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:34:47 GMT

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Feng Honghua commented on HBASE-10296:
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bq. Varying group membership and compacting the logs we'd have to contrib. I suppose we'd
write the logs to the local filesystem if we want edits persisted.
# Yes we need the snapshot feature provided from within the lib which is used by the app/user(here
is our HMaster) to reduce log files, otherwise the number of log files can increase immensely
over time(a bit like the motivation of flush in HBase)--I assume you meant snapshot when you
said 'compacting the logs'. and the snapshot functionality should be as a callback function
implemented by user logic, and after it's done the consensus lib perform removing according
log files, right? :-). 
# Agree with you on that we'd write the logs to the local filesystem for persistence, no doubt
here.
# Varying group membership has relatively lower priority than others, can safely set as a
nice-to-have feature in the beginning in the light that we almost always use a pre-configured
fixed set of machines as HMaster, right?

bq.We'd have no callback/notification mechanism so it will take a little more effort replacing
the zk-based mechanism. We'd have to add being able to pass state messages for say when a
region has opened on a regionserver or is closing...
I would propose to replace zk in an incremental fashion: 
# for region assignment status info, we move them out of zk to the embedded in-memory consensus
lib instance.
# zk can still serve as the central truth-holder storage for the 'configuration'-like data
such as replication info, since zk does it job well for such use scenario(we have analysed
it more comprehensively in HBASE-1755:-)).
# zk also remain as the liveness monitor for regionservers(but not for HMaster's healthy which
is now handled by the consensus lib instance itself) before we implement heartbeat directly
between HMaster and regionservers.
# for region assignment status info, since HMaster and regionservers now talk directly by
sending request/response messages between HMaster and regionservers after we use in-memory
consensus lib, it's natural that 'they are able to pass state messages for say when a region
has opened on a regionserver or is closing'

> Replace ZK with a consensus lib(paxos,zab or raft) running within master processes to
provide better master failover performance and state consistency
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HBASE-10296
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-10296
>             Project: HBase
>          Issue Type: Brainstorming
>          Components: master, Region Assignment, regionserver
>            Reporter: Feng Honghua
>
> Currently master relies on ZK to elect active master, monitor liveness and store almost
all of its states, such as region states, table info, replication info and so on. And zk also
plays as a channel for master-regionserver communication(such as in region assigning) and
client-regionserver communication(such as replication state/behavior change). 
> But zk as a communication channel is fragile due to its one-time watch and asynchronous
notification mechanism which together can leads to missed events(hence missed messages), for
example the master must rely on the state transition logic's idempotence to maintain the region
assigning state machine's correctness, actually almost all of the most tricky inconsistency
issues can trace back their root cause to the fragility of zk as a communication channel.
> Replace zk with paxos running within master processes have following benefits:
> 1. better master failover performance: all master, either the active or the standby ones,
have the same latest states in memory(except lag ones but which can eventually catch up later
on). whenever the active master dies, the newly elected active master can immediately play
its role without such failover work as building its in-memory states by consulting meta-table
and zk.
> 2. better state consistency: master's in-memory states are the only truth about the system,which
can eliminate inconsistency from the very beginning. and though the states are contained by
all masters, paxos guarantees they are identical at any time.
> 3. more direct and simple communication pattern: client changes state by sending requests
to master, master and regionserver talk directly to each other by sending request and response...all
don't bother to using a third-party storage like zk which can introduce more uncertainty,
worse latency and more complexity.
> 4. zk can only be used as liveness monitoring for determining if a regionserver is dead,
and later on we can eliminate zk totally when we build heartbeat between master and regionserver.
> I know this might looks like a very crazy re-architect, but it deserves deep thinking
and serious discussion for it, right?



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