Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hbase-issues-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-issues-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F11F8DEB1 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37414 invoked by uid 500); 23 Oct 2012 23:36:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-issues-archive@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 37362 invoked by uid 500); 23 Oct 2012 23:36:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact issues-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list issues@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 37353 invoked by uid 99); 23 Oct 2012 23:36:12 -0000 Received: from arcas.apache.org (HELO arcas.apache.org) (140.211.11.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:36:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:36:12 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jimmy Xiang (JIRA)" To: issues@hbase.apache.org Message-ID: <1711895466.19204.1351035372725.JavaMail.jiratomcat@arcas> In-Reply-To: <225621670.23806.1326155800145.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org> Subject: [jira] [Commented] (HBASE-5162) Basic client pushback mechanism MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-5162?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13482827#comment-13482827 ] Jimmy Xiang commented on HBASE-5162: ------------------------------------ I was thinking RegionTooBusyException, so close. As long as the server releases the IPC handler in such scenario, accessing other regions should not be blocked. The point is that we don't want a busy region blocks a whole region server. As to the old clients, right, the behavior is a little different. But they should not fail, as currently they should expect exceptions and handle them properly, for example, retry, although it may not be as efficient as delaying more when the retry count is bigger. As to measure the load, I think it is a good idea. I just have some concern in spending too much efforts on it without trying the simple one at first, which is known to work. > Basic client pushback mechanism > ------------------------------- > > Key: HBASE-5162 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-5162 > Project: HBase > Issue Type: New Feature > Affects Versions: 0.92.0 > Reporter: Jean-Daniel Cryans > Fix For: 0.96.0 > > Attachments: java_HBASE-5162.patch > > > The current blocking we do when we are close to some limits (memstores over the multiplier factor, too many store files, global memstore memory) is bad, too coarse and confusing. After hitting HBASE-5161, it really becomes obvious that we need something better. > I did a little brainstorm with Stack, we came up quickly with two solutions: > - Send some exception to the client, like OverloadedException, that's thrown when some situation happens like getting past the low memory barrier. It would be thrown when the client gets a handler and does some check while putting or deleting. The client would treat this a retryable exception but ideally wouldn't check .META. for a new location. It could be fancy and have multiple levels of pushback, like send the exception to 25% of the clients, and then go up if the situation persists. Should be "easy" to implement but we'll be using a lot more IO to send the payload over and over again (but at least it wouldn't sit in the RS's memory). > - Send a message alongside a successful put or delete to tell the client to slow down a little, this way we don't have to do back and forth with the payload between the client and the server. It's a cleaner (I think) but more involved solution. > In every case the RS should do very obvious things to notify the operators of this situation, through logs, web UI, metrics, etc. > Other ideas? -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira