Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3206D200C32 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 20:18:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 30A14160B75; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 19:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 75702160B5F for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 20:18:54 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 91302 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2017 19:18:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@hbase.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 91289 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2017 19:18:53 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:18:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id BC75FC20E1 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 19:18:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.98 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.98 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fgdzjbu-MXro for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 19:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f51.google.com (mail-wm0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 655FC60DBE for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 19:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f51.google.com with SMTP id t189so63773491wmt.1 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=riIHdKjZUqWAtFHmp0UKGwpNtCMHgnwB/2I+BMw2StM=; b=oBXjRmT7b0Zg+LRhSl81qgsoBuSOZ5/15pS83s1GWpbkuf6dNXnlY4qve7bJ6BefNq W18sIj9HZ5S53DrWD2WfdqJr1cYlBPSpCcneo/UyrVnxMPQdoHSd8mxILUJQUvFybB74 kRGDBkr5OTffXPVw91oav7l0czbxLOPEs8v57XZCAm27lqcdbq/8YjYEmPQ5o3qQeo0y +d75psNtgl6FHB4l8knMiNU4ztRIMlm5+BeVHfpwH9KJJKR1qkuyL2VR6v2eUrDqkE0p b1sEiYv0QwiWTbN9ukQQyf3AMQtOt0H4f+w44V9zt8SA463F1+3XtGKkBOq5vRE3Io0c vEDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=riIHdKjZUqWAtFHmp0UKGwpNtCMHgnwB/2I+BMw2StM=; b=R6gw8JVL/QTRiQ48uwH81ki0wmVTe7sqHcdsaK+tCcLOxvJz9w8xIGENszux5E4msh 39VQKbu5ISFD/R5dG9bkszjFeQTAQC6QNSK1YuSHVwIMb9kO9LpxWU9OleaA38wKJw5i 3MPWe4D00oYaQ5fEwUXkC3MBSmBWDFJfMlUyBHybV/a8VEkdg47tRqZ5naZD4XBmi2o1 2hfsSfTRtkXjoJChO1e+N17zND8CVTNfuaJK7Y1XH27tNpwzBkhZ1dv5Qki+PHmRXxuu SZ8RkWHnmoZIoobVdtpNDbueRhvehP0Yg0cjchtgAKbZnChecaIGJHX+XdXR4MIL2j4l 4Bcg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mqCvtfIn/HOKgCUimnfbrA5FeKvLsJneMGD27T90PA30f061mV9TJikplwbOsvnyWx1kalhtJt0qpVBw== X-Received: by 10.28.145.3 with SMTP id t3mr12377285wmd.47.1489087130277; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:18:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saint.ack@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.65.132 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:18:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stack Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:18:49 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CeNkRSJnaS7NiHfuFqeuZ8rB2NA Message-ID: Subject: Re: A suggestion for releasing major versions faster (Was: NOTICE: Nice testimony on benefits of the offheap read-path work now up on our blog) To: HBase Dev List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114694ba70a46a054a511dac archived-at: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:18:55 -0000 --001a114694ba70a46a054a511dac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Phil Yang wrote: > > > So my suggestion is cutting branch-x faster and have some fixed period, for > example, six month or one year? > You are right Phil. The Release Managers for the minor releases have been doing a good job keeping up a decent release cadence but we have an abysmal track record when it comes to pushing out majors. First we were afraid to commit -- witness how long it took us to get to a 1.0 -- and then pushing out the 1.0 took a monster effort. 2.0 looks to be a repeat of the errors of 1.0. My sense is that 2.0 is beyond saving at this stage. Can we do 3.0 different? As per your suggestion? St.Ack --001a114694ba70a46a054a511dac--