Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09E6218505 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 23:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 257 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2015 23:54:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 161 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2015 23:54:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@hbase.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 99980 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jul 2015 23:54:06 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 23:54:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ndimiduk@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.48] (HELO mail-wg0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 23:51:53 +0000 Received: by wgck11 with SMTP id k11so49370739wgc.0 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:53:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=R9PMpVleR2XvcGRaH3+Ar5szc0G22wTqoH3VHX4MhIQ=; b=O+buzOpDUCHb04RLXbFyoyrYP8lb75q0iCG5e153Obzk124fz7Yp3QrZZWm+gn97r8 mATvwEOpmmk/K3kL8aKtNuVHNSeTpL7QwcZ6B08VHpTEePSOiC1DnG4ijU0QJqhMYEBq TlMrtHx7nomD72Slgt/NeNYzrt6Aje7Mfl+0l1t+3bSevZzHnK2+fFDZEVrdKAm9l0KY SMuN+EDUsjWS+QIjistz8giQqhHRCzU2XAxQh2+njz4NDMmt+0y1TyOQjHRnUShi0t8Y ZobaZRlZjpf8zORotVJaRYG62OUQOVgyl9rYX3fIJ1f4yzQZVSXcyivvgbp5/sW0X9jU laxg== X-Received: by 10.180.11.225 with SMTP id t1mr48921173wib.94.1435794820484; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:53:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.146.193 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 16:53:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Nick Dimiduk Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 16:53:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requesting releases from our upstream dependencies To: hbase-dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c243e43ed5ae0519d9082b X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c243e43ed5ae0519d9082b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This strikes me as a reasonable (and, err, surprising-that-it's-necissary) request. +1 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > +1 > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Stack wrote: > > > +1 on making request. > > St.Ack > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: > > > > > On one of our open issues about Hadoop versions, one of the Hadoop PMC > > > members mentioned that the 2.6.z line wasn't planning any additional > > > releases[1]. > > > > > > I'd like us to request, as a downstream community, that the Hadoop > > project > > > plan for maintenance releases on this line given the non-production > > status > > > of 2.7.0, unevaluated quality of further 2.7 releases and the unknown > > > status of a 2.8 release. > > > > > > Right now, there's substantial evidence from our Elliot that we should > be > > > pushing our users from the 2.4/2.5 releases onto 2.6. At the moment, > > 2.6.0 > > > contains a couple of critical bugs that effectively prevent the use of > > HDFS > > > transparent encryption[2]. Now, that feature isn't needed but it's nice > > to > > > have as an operational alternative to our own implementation. And the > > > current bug _destroys_ HBase clusters, so the consequences for the > > curious > > > are severe. > > > > > > That specific issue aside, however, as a system that runs on top of > > Hadoop > > > we impose on our downstream users a dependency on that project. Regular > > > maintenance releases are critical to easing long term operational pain, > > so > > > we should proactively look out for them by prodding our less stable > > > upstream dependencies. > > > > > > > > > [1]: http://s.apache.org/MTY > > > [2]: HADOOP-11674 and HADOOP-11710 > > > > > > -- > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > > - Andy > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein > (via Tom White) > --001a11c243e43ed5ae0519d9082b--