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From Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Licensing problem on logo
Date Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:05:46 GMT
Thanks Stack!

-- 
Sean
On Jul 15, 2015 8:00 PM, "Stack" <stack@duboce.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Sean Busbey <busbey@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the main problem is that the vector free user didn't have
> > sufficient rights to license it under CC-BY-3.0 in the first place.
> >
> > The vector portal license says it's nontransferable, for example.
> >
> >
> I wrote vector portal. I cc'd private@hbase in case there are fireworks.
>
> Thanks Sean,
> St.Ack
>
>
>
>
> > --
> > Sean
> > On Jul 15, 2015 6:55 PM, "Stack" <stack@duboce.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Sean Busbey <busbey@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Folks!
> > > >
> > > > Working through HBASE-14085 and I was verifying license version/text
> > for
> > > > our bundled works in the source distribution.
> > > >
> > > > We have an entry for our logo that points to
> > > > http://www.vectorfree.com/jumping-orca as the source and CC-BY 3.0
> as
> > > the
> > > > license.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the source site, that work is under CC-BY 3.0 however, it
> > > lists
> > > > that it's a derivative work "Killer whale vector by VectorPortal.com
> > > > <http://www.vectorportal.com/>"
> > > >
> > > > It doesn't give a direct reference, but a quick search on
> VectorPortal
> > > for
> > > > "orca" leads directly to this likely source:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vectorportal.com/subcategory/205/KILLER-WHALE-FREE-VECTOR.eps/ifile/9136/detailtest.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Given the below description of our modifications:
> > > > "We changed the logo by stripping the colored background, inverting
> > > > it and then rotating it some.
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > It sounds like we're closer to using the original (or could easily
> > rerun
> > > > our modifications to be based on it).
> > > >
> > > In any case, this original work is not licensed under CC-BY 3.0, nor do
> > > > their license terms[1] line up with the existing acceptable licenses
> > (and
> > > > I'm not sure it would pass the general guidelines)[2].
> > > >
> > > > The three obvious possible next steps I see:
> > > >
> > > > * Contact vector portal and ask them to grant us a license on the
> image
> > > > under a pre-appoved license (i.e. CC-BY-3.0)
> > > > * Submit a question to legal-discuss@ to see if these license terms
> > are
> > > > acceptable
> > > > * Change the logo :(
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas or preferences amongst these?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > My rationale was that I was making a derivative of a CC-BY 3.0 licensed
> > > work. CC-BY 3.0 allows "... remix, transform, and build upon the
> material
> > > for
> > > any purpose, even commercially." I called it out in NOTICES so our
> > sourcing
> > > was trackable. I was unaware that my manipulations took our logo closer
> > to
> > > the pre-derivate source. That it did, is probably of no relevance.
> > >
> > > Choice #4, is to continue that our logo is a derivative of a CC-BY 3.0.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, I can write vector portal.
> > >
> > > St.Ack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]: http://www.vectorportal.com/copyright/
> > > > http://www.vectorportal.com/faq/
> > > > [2]: http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sean
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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