Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCC491856B for ; Sun, 3 May 2015 01:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 72178 invoked by uid 500); 3 May 2015 01:08:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 72089 invoked by uid 500); 3 May 2015 01:08:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@hbase.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 72077 invoked by uid 99); 3 May 2015 01:08:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 May 2015 01:08:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: message received from 54.191.145.13 which is an MX secondary for dev@hbase.apache.org) Received: from [54.191.145.13] (HELO mx1-us-west.apache.org) (54.191.145.13) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 May 2015 01:08:43 +0000 Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id ED18C230A5 for ; Sun, 3 May 2015 01:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2015 01:07:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2015 01:07:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2015 01:07:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 17321.4917.bm@omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: jfzIibwVM1m8kC2NMYQgi8f3JfjI5t4JTwEiCD9A5ZJ9UuLwn8Xz7jtOi1v3pFr Tq0FjYEQU54g.bn_pgRKGuQCplPs0tSof3J7jcLL2FKHYi6w_iDpnv5Z4rDAeOlZdFqU2lMPdSJ0 0BwGwheokzq72QfgfyUVSOxfFcBENlTadWeKIFXPmQJLNIg4ixD4f4qvMSGa5C_9YIFX03J3P4ur e0eEUxiTZhWpr8vK_w92xYwNk00RSfnbDBgGVlyhYMWIeB9XBmPV6iiOhgOd3eNfroHxWw01JYyL Sn9KeZ0Y6SAr6Pgb2lg5SVdbuYqzK23xQyz7Cn_v4rXMh8t6jpWDUwNn0WRjKITdbVZ630ExBWWa SMSOj9oY7dP7wi6dQyxL4NkWvSpK7tO5qT1Gfq4WEjYJ.OXENWW8nh3eZxVj.VaktMNHhjr7hdxW PWMtDIDUQ2Oir.0bqyu0Ib6.HjsKBTpu5hEH01PtGxqANOZiR4WL2x04cRyt6GqOBmvcpp1Jm03v YSKbwvg-- Received: by 66.196.80.125; Sun, 03 May 2015 01:07:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 01:07:10 +0000 (UTC) From: lars hofhansl Reply-To: lars hofhansl To: "dev@hbase.apache.org" Message-ID: <1615138335.488466.1430615230744.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling Upgrade 0.98 -> 1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_488465_113581855.1430615230738" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_488465_113581855.1430615230738 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A belated and perhaps unhelpful "I agree" from me. Supporting rolling upgrades is in our own interest.If we want phase out old= er releases of HBase (and reduce _our_ work supporting all those branches) = we should give our users some no-downtime, and hopefully painless way to up= grade. 0.94 is now 3 years old, and had 28 releases. In part that's because we do = not have a good upgrade path to later releases (and maybe also because it j= ust worked well).I had fun doing 0.94, but I don't think we want to do that= again. :) -- Lars From: Enis S=C3=B6ztutar To: "dev@hbase.apache.org" =20 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling Upgrade 0.98 -> 1.1 =20 Yeah, we need rolling upgrade from 0.98 to 1.1 I think. One issue related to DLR was that, it needs a fix HBASE-11094 which is 0.98.4+ only otherwise it is data loss. We have turned it off in 1.0, because explaining rolling upgrades from 0.98.4- and 0.98.4+ was hard and there is no easy way to enforce it. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-12577 Enis On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote= : > +1 for rolling upgrade from 0.98 to any 1.x for as long as we can manage > it. Will make life easier for adopters of the 1.x line who come in later. > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Nick Dimiduk > wrote: > > > We're pretty late in the game to bring this up, but I want to make sure > > we're all on the same page. I believe we want to support rolling upgrad= es > > as there have been blocker tickets opened against the release to this > > effect. The two things I'm aware of that cause problems here are table > > state in meta (HBASE-13017) and distributed log replay (HBASE-12577). A= re > > there any others we should be aware of? When I search for "Hadoop Flags= : > > Incompatible change" [0] I do get a couple hits, but I don't think this > > flag is well socialized. > > > > Given the resolution outlined for table states, I'm prone to punt this > one > > to 1.2. > > > > For DLR, we have HBASE-12743 opened without clear progress. Devaraj als= o > > mentioned to me that he's been tracking troubles around this feature hi= s > > test runs. Unless someone wants to crack this nut today or tomorrow, I > > think we should toggle it off. HBASE-13584. > > > > Other items? > > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > > [0]: > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=3Dproject%20%3D%20HBASE%20AND%= 20fixVersion%20%3D%201.1.0%20AND%20%22Hadoop%20Flags%22%20%3D%20%22Incompat= ible%20change%22 > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Andy > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein > (via Tom White) > ------=_Part_488465_113581855.1430615230738--