Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63D8710153 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 23:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80103 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2013 23:13:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 80048 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2013 23:13:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@hbase.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 80040 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jul 2013 23:13:51 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:13:51 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of enis.soz@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.173] (HELO mail-qc0-f173.google.com) (209.85.216.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:13:46 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id l10so3294419qcy.18 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=FV9gFCSNuew30z4fhkFgswuzOdaaNAHFBvI4Iuepn4I=; b=WLA22yzgO7aY8Fn8Fi0jxm3GI48gWGAAFxZ4lRhKkNRSc97iHR9NX/U6aLgNKBOJy7 HI2SXBkEMA+uIuVFAniRYvcNcmvZKITIHff7hhObfd9x1j6iXG4357xyOtAgxFq70yhs th5nMeihQmSSlyoEwT97nlxopJYtL32Z0kCO4TGDMlAqpztsJzP5+y1YP0ZQk7ib+ZX4 54UCk+e71+BOKvrruIWtR2vfbapn7kpnxZ5w/JurOtgMw7pqT0xLeWOKntwFeA9BenjT 6vNXvqchhVuwAHFFR/x1zjoSN51ZioRm2TWmZohuqv5d1FoffUe25dTn3UXxJGWSQL58 4ykA== X-Received: by 10.49.104.180 with SMTP id gf20mr33811218qeb.59.1372720405799; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:13:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.60.74 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:13:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Enis_S=C3=B6ztutar?= Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:13:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Identifying which configurations are experimental To: "dev@hbase.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b62220a29e97704e07b604d X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b62220a29e97704e07b604d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 With these settings, I think the plan is to get the patches in, mark them experimental for some time, and once they are baked remove the experimental label. Given that development model, it will be not intuitive to have settings prefixed. If any user was using them in their POC, then they have to be aware of that the setting changed once we declare that it is good to go, etc. Ideally, we should either (1) remove the feature from the code base because it is not getting any attention, and nobody is using it (offheap cache I am looking at you), or (2) fix them to make it more stable. Given that we are not living in the ideal world, I would still suggest that on a feature-by-feature basis, we should decide 1 or 2, and if there is some interest in working on the patch, document that feature is experimental in book + hbase-default.xml, code etc and keep the code. Otherwise nuke them. Just my 2 cents. Enis On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans >wrote: > > > Yeah, but there's a distinction between hbase.regionserver.maxlogs > > which is only in the code and not experimental at all VS > > hbase.offheapcache.percentage which enables something that we decided > > was experimental. > > > > My motivation for this discussion is about the latter > > > > Remove them from hbase-defaults? > > But either that or an 'experimental.' (or whatever) prefix is fine with me. > Just seems like the latter is more hair to trim back later. > > -- > Best regards, > > - Andy > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein > (via Tom White) > --047d7b62220a29e97704e07b604d--