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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:16:37 -0800
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Subject: Re: Upcoming merge of snapshots branch into trunk. (HBASE-6055 and
 HABSE-7290)
From: Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org>
To: "dev@hbase.apache.org" <dev@hbase.apache.org>
Cc: lars hofhansl <larsh@apache.org>, Stack <stack@duboce.net>
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Intel will be putting effort into stabilizing 0.96 for production use too.

On Friday, January 11, 2013, Jonathan Hsieh wrote:

> Cloudera Hat:  We are customer driven when it comes to features and
> this is oft requested.  0.96 is a compatiblity breaking release and we
> have some constraints there. Snapshots is mostly an additive feature
> so it is technically possible with minor compatibility concerns.
>
> Apache Hat: Keeping features to new versions makes the most sense - it
> keeps stable versions stable and encourages folks to move to newer
> shinier versions. :).  Ideally, with a healthy Apache project that
> releases regularly, the release schedule and feature set of
> distributions shouldn't affect the natural release cadence and feature
> set of the apache project.
>
> At the moment the best guess for when 0.96 gets released is unknown.
> There will be a non-trivial amount of time necessary to harden
> snapshots as well as all the other additions to that version.  Its
> pretty plain to see that Cloudera and HWX are putting significant
> efforts into readying 0.96 as well.
>
> Jon.
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:36 PM, lars hofhansl <larsh@apache.org<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Oh, I meant the 1.0.x, 1.1.x, 2.x.x, etc version. Yeah, the -beta is not
> a good idea (IMHO).
> >
> >
> > I have to ask the Cloudera and Hortonworks folks then: Why not wait
> until 0.96 is stable? Why backport snapshots to 0.94?
> >
> > -- Lars
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Stack <stack@duboce.net <javascript:;>>
> > To: HBase Dev List <dev@hbase.apache.org <javascript:;>>; lars hofhansl
> <larsh@apache.org <javascript:;>>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Upcoming merge of snapshots branch into trunk. (HBASE-6055
> and HABSE-7290)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:34 PM, lars hofhansl <larsh@apache.org<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Eventually we should switch to semantic versioning (like Hadoop).
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The -beta stuff?  Nah, at least in Hadoop, it has been arbitrarily
> applied (and contended).  Lets not use Hadoop as an example.  We have some
> precedent for linux-y odd is unstable, even is stable.  Lets hold to it I'd
> say.
> >
> >
> > It also depends on the timing of 0.96.
> >>The fact that two companies want to port this to 0.94 seems to indicate
> low confidence that we can ship a stable 0.96 soon.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I think it is more that 0.96.0 is a singularity.  Including 0.96 in a
> downstreamer's bundle only makes sense when the vendor is moving to a new
> major version.  These major versions happen on a less frequent cycle.   We
> just need to make sure 0.96 is out and well-baked the next time these
> cycles come around.
> >
> > St.Ack
>
>
>
> --
> // Jonathan Hsieh (shay)
> // Software Engineer, Cloudera
> // jon@cloudera.com <javascript:;>
>


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