Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C962573DD for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 74524 invoked by uid 500); 2 Sep 2011 20:01:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hbase-dev-archive@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 74467 invoked by uid 500); 2 Sep 2011 20:01:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@hbase.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@hbase.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@hbase.apache.org Received: (qmail 74458 invoked by uid 99); 2 Sep 2011 20:01:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:01:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of bernd.fondermann@googlemail.com designates 209.85.218.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.41] (HELO mail-yi0-f41.google.com) (209.85.218.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:01:40 +0000 Received: by yib2 with SMTP id 2so2855429yib.14 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bnNDJk9NZ51tbM8IhWlq5Z/tIceDtTEAqoLsoK4rEPw=; b=FmkHIwM9u9DyPFmW7vsAqnvo4byl8ZNxeUnLCqXciLqr/jmZSMuLg3/0aRDA9kLOYX JQiltSASKHwg00Hj/dtg2gir27ttmwEUUknF/jIdri1H2rBzyDpibpV4V1AWApM2jo5y HV19ol/WYwG+1p1WQJbco2EEloxxgXowlbs3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.47.74 with SMTP id ur10mr1388130icb.176.1314993679597; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.166.197 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:01:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal From: Bernd Fondermann To: "dev@hbase.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52e5fab277fbb04abfad389 --bcaec52e5fab277fbb04abfad389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, September 2, 2011, Gary Helmling wrote: > > Claims a relationship with HBase. Is there overlapping code or is this just > the duplication of functionality? There's no community relationship that > I'm aware of. I haven't seen any of the proposed committers on the HBase > user and dev lists to this point, so that doesn't set much of a precedent > for community interaction. > > > Overall I see no meaningful differentiation vs HBase as an existing project, > no past attempts to interact with the most relevant Apache community, and > only an, until now, private "community" of government users. I think it's > great that they want to open source this. I don't want to discourage that > -- go for it! But I don't see what the benefit is of ASF incubating this. > I only see the potential for community fragmentation and market confusion > over such closely similar projects. Over the years, many "competing" projects went through incubation or were developped in different projects. There are at least 5 HTTP servers, two WS-* stacks, three build tools, there is Cassandra, HBase and CouchDB. No project can claim to dominate a particular technical domain. Maybe a bit surprising, this evolution of projects has fostered innovation and contributed to ASFs versatlity. The only thing you can really do is write code that rocks, build an open community and put out great releases. Bernd --bcaec52e5fab277fbb04abfad389--